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Tuesday Jul 18, 2023
Reversing Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis Is Possible With The Right Protocol
Tuesday Jul 18, 2023
Tuesday Jul 18, 2023
Welcome back, Hormone Prescription Podcast listeners! We're so glad you've joined us for an exciting and eye-opening interview with a world-expert on Hashimoto's disease - Dr. Anshul Gupta.
Dr. Gupta is a best-selling author, speaker, researcher, and Board-Certified Family Medicine Physician with advanced certifications in Functional and Integrative Medicine. With his passion for helping his patients and people all over the world, he has been awarded Reader's Choice, Best Doctor in Northern Neck Area.
Having worked at the prestigious Cleveland Clinic Department of Functional Medicine alongside Dr. Mark Hyman, Dr. Gupta has an extensive background in helping people find the root cause of their health issues and reversing these conditions.
In this episode, we dive deep into understanding Hashimoto's disease and the incredible journey Dr. Gupta has taken to provide relief and hope to those affected. We explore his unique protocol for success and how he has helped thousands of patients reverse their health issues by using the concepts of functional medicine.
Some highlights from our conversation with Dr. Gupta include:
- Understanding Hashimoto's disease
- Dr. Gupta's proven protocols
- The role of functional medicine in reversing health issues
- The impact of peptide and integrative therapies
Don't miss out on this fantastic opportunity to learn more about reversing Hashimoto's thyroiditis from the expert himself, Dr. Anshul Gupta.
Be sure to share this episode with friends, family, and anyone in need of inspiration and hope to reverse Hashimoto's disease. Thank you for listening to The Hormone Prescription Podcast, and stay tuned for more insightful and life-changing episodes!
Speaker 1 (00:00):
“Health is like money. We never have a true idea of its value until we lose it.” - Josh Billings, stay tuned. In this episode, Dr. Anshul Gupta is going to tell you how to reverse Hashimoto's.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones in our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself Again. As an ob gyn, I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue. Now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Hi everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much for joining me today. My guest today has his own story of healing from thyroid problems at midlife. And although he's a guy, thyroid problems are more prevalent in women, particularly Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which is epidemic proportions globally and it is curable. Y'all is the case. No one sent you the memo and you have Hashimoto's and you have antibodies. You can get rid of the antibodies and reverse Hashimoto's. So I want you to listen to this episode even if you don't have a thyroid problem and you don't have Hashimoto's. This episode is chock full of information from a board certified family practice doctor, and yours truly about how to find the underlying root causes of whatever problems you're having, even if it's not a thyroid problem. So take it from the two of us, both board certified medical doctors who had our own health crises and had to find answers.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's where you'll find the answers from a root cause resolution approach that will help you today. In particular, we're talking about Hashimoto's thyroiditis. So I'll tell you a little bit about Dr. Gupta and then we'll get started. Dr. Anshul Gupta is a best-selling author, speaker, researcher, and the world expert in Hashimoto's Disease. He educates people worldwide on reversing Hashimoto's disease. He's board certified in family medicine and he has advanced certification in functional medicine peptide therapy. And he's also fellowship trained in integrative medicine. He's worked at the prestigious Cleveland Clinic Department of Functional Medicine alongside Dr. Mark Hyman and has helped thousands of patients to reverse their health issues by using the concepts of functional medicine. His dedication towards his patients was recognized when he was awarded Reader's Choice Be Best Doctor in Northern Neck Area, and he's now on a mission to help 1 million people reverse their health conditions To achieve this mission. He has written a bestselling book called Reversing Hashimoto's, and he's also started a virtual functional medicine practice, a blog and a YouTube channel so he can reach people from all over the world. His blog and YouTube videos have already reached more than 2 million people worldwide. Please welcome Dr. Anshul Gupta to the show. Thank you
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So much for having me over here. It's a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So Hashimoto's thyroiditis is at epidemic proportions among women globally and you really have narrowed in on this disease and how people can reverse it naturally. What got you so interested in Hashimoto's thyroiditis?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So actually like started with my own health journey. So by training I'm a family physician, so just after finishing my family medicine residency, I was in a private clinic doing family medicine work. But just couple of years into my practice I started getting a lot of symptoms. You know, I was getting a lot of tiredness by afternoon. I had to take a nap during my lunch hour just to kind of function. I was gaining a lot of weight even though I did not change my diet or exercise, I was having a lot of gut issues, terrible stomach pain, and the pain will just hit me randomly any point in the day and could not figure out what was causing it. And afterwards I would, after I finished my clinic, I was just brain foggy. I was not able to concentrate on things, not remember things properly, but the main issue was the stomach pain.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I could not figure it out. So I started taking acid reflux medication to see if it would help. That did not do anything. Then I saw a GI specialist who did endoscopies, colonoscopies, blood works, ultrasounds, everything was normal. They added even more medications and it was working. I was having horrible stomach pain and everything was getting worse. That's where I found functional medicine. I got trained into functional medicine and made a protocol for myself, implemented a stepwise process of changing my lifestyle, ch changing supplements, everything. Within one month, my stomach pain was gone. Within six months I lost 40 pounds. You know, my energy levels were so up that even participated in a five K rugged maniac. And for me, actually, I've never an athletic person, so for me to do that was a big thing. My brain fog went away, you know, like my stomach was so good.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So that was a life-changing experience for me that my health completely transformed within a few months of implementing the protocol. Then actually I got this opportunity to work at the Cleveland Clinic Functional Medicine Center with Dr. Mark Hyman. He wanted to do research in functional medicine. I was absolutely interested into that. When I started working over there, I noticed that I was attracting these middle-aged females and they all had very similar issues as mine. They were all tired, they were all having weight issues, they had gut problems, they were all brain foggy and the common denominator was that they all had Hashimoto disease and they were all falling off what the doctor wanted them to do of taking this medicine, but still not getting better. So that prompted me to research into Hashimoto's Disease, what is causing these females not to get better and what can be done?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So through my research, you know, I kind of found out there were like several reasons for that and I developed this three step process, which implemented in several females while working over there. And we saw phenomenal results. Not only their quality of life improved, we were able to improve their thyroid numbers, their antibodies went away, their thyroid medicines were reduced. So we saw those great results. So that actually prompted me to share this with even wider audience and I wrote this book called Reversing Hashimoto's so that people kind of understand what is wrong with them and how they can get better.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yes. So physician healed thyself, you healed yourself and then you're proceeding to help other people. And so what really, what do you wanna talk a little bit about your three step process for Hashimoto's?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Absolutely. so in Hashimoto's disease, a lot of people actually don't know is that it is very different from hypothyroidism. Hashimoto's disease is an autoimmune condition where your body is actually producing antibodies to destroy your own thyroid gland. And when people are going to the regular doctors and getting levothyroxine medicine that is supporting the thyroid gland, but not doing anything to address the underlying problem of autoimmunity or inflammation. So that's the very first step. We need to know why our body is producing these antibodies. So that's the first step that, you know, we have identified root causes that play a role. So in very first step, we actually want people to identify their root causes because everybody has different root causes that are playing a role. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, so identified five major root causes of big classes, of root causes that play a role. So those are food, ities, nutritional deficiencies, toxins, chronic infections and stress.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So all of these combined together actually lead to Hashimotos disease. Now, most of the people are looking for just one root cause and once they find one root cause they stop then and there. They do not do a complete evaluation. It's very important to understand that most people will have at least two plus root causes, which are playing a role together to cause Hashimoto. So that's the very first step, people to understand what is root causes and what are their root causes that are playing a role. And then in the second step we start actually fixing, you know, like this thyroid which has been destroyed because of inflammation and autoimmunity. So in that aspect, you know, we have created this mito thyroid diet where we are focusing on actually two aspects of things. First of all, removing foods which are destroying the thyroid gland and then actually including foods which are healing for the thyroid gland and reduces inflammation in the body.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So that's aspect of this like diet that we do get people started on. And plus the supplements. Supplements which are again supporting the thyroid gland, which are, have shown that they can help Hashimoto's patients reduce their antibodies and get better. So that's the second step. Start healing the process. And the last step or the third step is removing the toxicities. So in that aspect we work on removing the stress component by kind of help them incorporating stress reduction techniques and removing toxins by living in a toxin free environment. And the third thing is removing infections. The chronic infections, which can be parasites or Lyme disease or barella, bia, any of those chronic infections are playing a role. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So that's the complete three-step process, which I recommend for people that you know, can help definitely improve the quality of life and also improve their antibody numbers. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I I thought it was interesting that you said most people only look for one root cause and then they stop. But the really, in traditional medicine, they don't look for any root causes. You'll find millions of women being treated, treated, I say in quotation marks for Hashimoto's thyroiditis because are they really being treated if the underlying cause is not being treated? I'd argue no, they're just being placed on Synthroid and left and meanwhile their immune system is destroying the thyroid gland further and further and further year after year after year. And so no real healing occurs. So I love your approach and that you've got this three step process to find the underlying cause. Z plural, it's usually never one. I say that these causes and functional medicine are kind of like ants at a picnic. There's never just one <laugh>. There's always way more than one. You mentioned in your second step you help them to identify healing thyroid foods to add to the diet and hurting thyroid foods. Do you wanna talk a little bit about what some of those healing and hurting foods might be for the thyroid?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Absolutely. So let's first start with the food which are hurting the thyroid. So again, we have good amount of research that suggests that diet can play a good important role. So in that aspect, you know, like certain foods, you know, causes something called food sensitivities. So that food sensitivity ultimately leads to leaky gut issues. And the leaky gut ultimately, you know, is an important role in Hashimoto seas. So a lot of people don't know the difference between food sensitivities and food allergies. They think that both of them are same. So kind of a little bit plugin over here that, you know, they're totally different things. Food allergy is a condition, let's say like if you have a peanut allergy, you eat peanuts, suddenly you are like blow up like a balloon or like, you know, you have highs all over your body, you have difficulty breathing, you land up in the emergency room, that's food allergy, food ity is that, let's say you eat gluten and your body says, Hey gluten, I don't like you, but it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
So they start producing very small amount of antibody against gluten and then slowly and slowly these antibodies actually start attacking your thyroid gland and that's what food sensory is all about. So we have seen several food which actually can lead to Hashimoto's by this food sensory method. One of them is gluten, the second one is dairy, the third one is soy, then comes corn. Then sugar is another thing which actually works in the different method, Northern food ities. But sugar hijacks the immune system and can again kind of play an important role in Hashimoto's. And then comes the processed food and the processed meats. We have to stay away from those also. So I think these are all the food aspects that, you know, we have kind of decent amount of research that suggests that that is a first step of removing these foods. Now in certain situations when their Hashimoto's antibodies are really very high or they're really having worse symptoms, sometimes we might have to also remove lectin containing foods, which can be the nightshades sometimes, which can be in like nuts and seeds and things.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But I think for a normal person with Hashimoto's and other things, starting with removing the first five categories is great. And then if they're not getting the results, then moving and removing the other categories are important. So these are the foods to remove mm-hmm <affirmative>. Then what are the foods that we should include that are thyroid healing foods? So in that aspect, antioxidant containing foods, especially non-starchy colorful vegetables are really very important because each and every color that vegetables have carry a different antioxidants and that helps support the thyroid gland in kind of reducing inflammation and also provides them the right whites and minerals to gain support the production of the thyroid hormone. So definitely the more colorful your diet is, the better it is, especially coming from the non-starchy vegetables. Then comes a good quality fats again, you know, like we are living in a world where fats have been shammed really bad.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Every kind of fat is really bad, but what we know is that there are good fats and there are bad fats. So it's very important to educate people about good fats because each and every cell of our body is lined with good fat. Our brain, 60% of them are made with fat. So our body needs good fat. So in that aspect, again, fatty fishes are great, have avocado, avocados are good. If we can tolerate nuts and seeds like chia seeds, flax seeds, you know, like those are again, good options. Olive oils, coconut oils, those are good fats that are definitely thyroid, supporting foods. Then comes the good quality protein. You know, whether it's coming from fish chicken or if you are a vegan or a vegetarian, again coming from nuts and seeds or your lentils and legumes, again, very important to have good quality protein because all those amino acids are again, needed for your thyroid gland and in body in general to kind of keep the immune system in Good check. Then you know, like again another things are certain spices like turmeric and ginger again are great to include because again, they have like, you know, great anti-inflammatory properties which supports your thyroid gland and again, healthy detoxification and your body to function better. So these are all thyroid healing foods that should be included. Then obviously if you want to include certain grains or gluten-free grains like keno and brown rice can also be an option just to kinda support your complex carbohydrates and your body needs.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, I'm this quote you shared with me before we started from Josh Billings health is like money. We never have a true idea of its value until we lose it. I know when a lot of people hear the foods that you just mentioned to add, they think that it's going to be expensive to eat that way to eat to support their thyroid. And I find that a lot of people, when you tell them the foods that you want them to eat, which is a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables and high quality proteins and fats say, oh that's gonna be expensive. I can't afford that. What, what do you say to that? How do you help them work through that?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So again, you know, it's, as you all you suggested that it's kind of a misconception for a lot of people that you know, everything is so expensive, it's all about planning. We say that, okay, well you just have to plan your meals around it and you have to look for like local grocery stores. You don't have to like shop at the expensive grocery stores or going to Whole Foods or anything, right? Go to your local stores, which you know, can have easily these produce which are at a very cheaper price. And again, you know, the quantity of these things when you eat them, you don't have to eat a huge quantity because you get full very easily by eating all those veggies and things. So then you're not consume them so much and again, if you're meal planning and cooking at home, then again you're saving all that money that you'll be ex, you know, like spending when you're going to outside in restaurants.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
So in actually long run, people actually save money by eating this kind of diet and cooking food at home. And by cooking again, a lot of people say, well, I'm in a very busy job, you know, I have so many different responsibilities, I don't have the time because that's again, a very important thing for a lot of people, that limitation of the time. But again, I tell people it doesn't take too much time. You know, you, we have ways for people to kind of, you know work around with the limitation of the time they have. Do batch cooking, do cookings on the weekends, you know, then you can save that food for later on. Also, again, like easy recipes, you don't have to go for complicated recipes, which require an hour or so easy recipes with certain ingredients, again, make it so much easier for people to cook and also like, you know sustain their jobs and also their like responsibilities. So I think this is easily done within the budget as well as within the time constraint that a lot of people have. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I agree. And when I started on my functional medicine journey, I probably like, oh, what, 15 years ago I had to learn how to cook some new things and I went and got these kind of used cookbooks. I think I got eight of them and that had a lot eliminated a lot of the foods that you mentioned for thyroid. I don't have Hashimoto's, but I did have hypothyroidism and I just learned several of the recipes from there that I could cook that eliminated gluten, dairy, corn, all the things dairy that you mentioned. And at first it was like learning any new skill and it was challenging and then after a while it became second nature. So I just wanna encourage anybody listening that if I can do it, you can do it for sure. I promise you, you didn't mention cruciferous vegetables like broccoli. I know I've seen on social media sometimes you'll see a lot of these little memes saying, oh, you shouldn't eat broccoli if you have Hashimoto's. And I'm just wondering if you can kind of settle that for people if that's an issue or not.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Absolutely. Again, yes, I totally like, you know forgot to mention that point. So crucifers vegetables is a complete myth. This actually started like, you know, around 20 years ago we had this very small research study on rabbits where they were fed a lot of cruciferous vegetables, like excessive amount for their like weight. And they saw that, you know, like the absorption, you know, like of tired medicine from their gut was a little bit on the lower side. So that prompted a discussion. All these are TROs and you know, they should be completely avoided. Now, 20 years ago, the main reason of hypothyroidism was not Hashimoto's, it was actually low iodine. So that was a legitimate concern at that point of time. But now coming forward in 20th century, we rarely see i o D in deficiency as the number one reason. The number one reason currently through research is Hashimoto's disease, more than 70% of people who are having hypothyroidism.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
The main reason is Hashimoto's. And we have a couple of research studies which clearly suggest that cruciferous vegetables are really good for Hashimotos because first of all, cruciferous vegetables are high in different vitamins and minerals like iron content, vitamin K, you know, like and other minerals mm-hmm <affirmative> like magnesium and things. And plus they have antioxidant like cetin, which again very helpful for your thyroid gland. And plus they have a detoxifying compound called sulforaphanes, which help to remove toxins from your liver, help support your liver. So they're actually so nutrition so good. So definitely they are very, very useful and if you have Hashimoto's disease then I think they should be part of your diet.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Will second that. I say amen each or crucifers your cauliflower, broccoli, asparagus, Brussels sprouts, they're so good for you and, and and it's really been a myth on social media and there are so many foods you do need to cut out. Don't cut out the ones you don't need to cut out like broccoli, so eat your broccoli. You mentioned iodine and there's a lot of controversy about iodine use in people with Hashimoto's. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Actually, again, that very important point because again, the traditional way, even with a lot of naturopaths or like a a p like you know, natural medicine people, they are putting people on a very high doses of iodine if they have a di, if a thyroid problem. But what they're not understanding is that the research is very clear in Hashimoto's disease specific people too little of iodine can cause Hashimoto's disease, but too much of iodine can also cause hashimo disease. So we have to be right in the middle of that. Now the problem is this, we do not have a perfect test to check for iodine in a person's body. We do have this blood test, we have this urine test, you know, which can be done. But again, those are not a perfect measure of things. Mm-Hmm <affirmative>, so that's kind of, you know, the problem that we go into.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So I don't recommend people going on very high doses of iodine. I think if you can replenish iodine through food, that is definitely the first good source. So all that seafood, if you are eating like sea vegetables like seaweeds, those are great resources for that. If you are not able to do that or you don't like them, that's where, you know, like little bit of I o D into your supplements, like up to 200 micrograms. I think that's a decent amount to do it. But some people are doing like thousand micrograms or 2000 micrograms a day and clearly that might be actually harming their thyroid by harming their Hashimoto's rather than actually helping them.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You mentioned sea vegetables and I find that that's foreign to a lot of particularly western diets. And so that's something that you can get recipes from cookbooks and I say if you don't like 'em or you think you don't like them, try them again. Get some new recipes and try them in different ways. I found this great recipe for a hijiki shrimp salad with some wasabi. That's amazing. And I don't think most people aren't familiar with hijiki, so just try some different ones and expand your food vocabulary. I think that'll serve you. You talked about some of the root causes that people have to identify. You mentioned toxins, stress and infections. How does somebody go about addressing these? Because there's some people listening who they have a traditional doctor. Do you think that the average person can educate their traditional doctor to be able to do the proper investigation to under identify the underlying root causes? Or is this something that will require specialist evaluation?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, most of the regular doctors do not understand the concept of root causes, that it's completely foreign to them because again, you know, like being a conventionally trained family physician, I was seeing tons of Hashimoto's patients before also, and whenever somebody says What should I be eating? I would say, just go and home and eat whatever you like.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right? Whatever you like.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah. So I've done that myself. So I know that the convention doctors would not be able to understand it's nothing wrong that they have a bad reason for it. It's basically they're not trained into that. So that's the reason they do not know the concept of, you know, root causes. So that's where coming to a specialist, like a functional medicine or integrative medicine specialist who understands the concept of root cause approach will be the best bet for doing it. And the other problem is that a lot of conventional labs actually are not equipped to test for all of these things. So that's where, you know, these advanced functional medicine labs are the way to go for it if you want to know what kind of toxins are there, how much is there and do we have any kind of, you know, infections going on in the gut, all of those things, you know, or other infection like Lyme disease and things, regular doctors do not have access to it. So then working with a specialist would be useful in that aspect. Yeah,
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I think it's so true in my OB G Y N training, never once did I hear or say the word root, the words root cause. It's just not a concept in mainstream medicine. It's you treat the symptom when the symp with a drug or surgery and when the symptom is gone you claim victory, but meanwhile other problems are accruing. And I'm wondering if you could talk about, we don't have time to go through all of the different root causes. You've got that in your book. We're definitely gonna have links to all of your resources in the show notes. But what are some of the most surprising common underlying root causes you think are often missed that people should be looking for?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I think the number one root cause that a lot of people are not aware of or get missed is the toxins. I think 90% of my clients, you know, like whoever Hashimoto's Disease are dealing with some or the other kinds of toxins. And the problem is this, most of these toxins, a lot of people are not even aware that their environment has these toxins. So first of all, you know, we have these heavy metals like lead and mercury and arsenic and aluminum. They're hidden into a lot of different things that we are using on the regular basis. Now again, our food might actually be contaminated with them also, like, you know, fishes lot of times can have high mercury unless, you know, we are making a choice of, you know, getting fish from a good source lead is actually frequently contaminated in the water. So again, like if you don't have a proper filtration system, we might be getting exposed to it.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Certain kind of spices actually we talked about like, you know, turmeric and ginger and other things. If they're coming from Asian countries, then again they can be actually contaminate with lead rice can have arsenic. So you see like, you know, I'm not saying to eat, not eat all of these things. What I'm saying is that unless we have a high index of suspicion, these toxins might be hidden there. So this is just the heavy metals then comes the mold toxins, you know, like you know, in our environment we are seeing more and more people being affected with mold toxins. Whether that is in their houses, whether it is the workplaces, whether it is a Airbnbs or hotels they might be spending time into all of these spaces might have more toxins that they are totally unaware of. Then comes the environmental toxins. Each and every day we are producing more and more chemicals, right?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And these chemicals definitely are affecting our body in a very negative fashion. So whether that was like pesticides or glycosides, you know, like which are coming through our food or whether those are like other environmental toxins, like several cleaning products we are using in our house. And the last amount of toxins are, especially for females, all that skincare products they're using, starting from the soaps and cosmetics, they are laden with toxins. Most females, oh this just on my skin, but you and me know that the skin is the biggest organ of our body. Anything we put on the skin can get absorbed into our bloodstream and can reach thyroid. And over the course of days to weeks to years that toxin load keeps on increasing and again, kind of hijacks an immune system and starts attacking our own thyroid gland. So I think the very first thing people should large looking is their environment and start looking to reduce the amount of toxin exposure that they're having by buying cleaner products, by kind of buying cleaner cost medics, you know, kind of trying to eat organic if possible. You know, all those things. And that actually there's a great resource, you know, which your users might already know is like E W G, which is an environmental working group, great website has a great app, lot of good resources. You can actually check your cosmetic products over there and you can actually find cleaner products over there that you can buy. So that's a great resource for a lot of people to use.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yes, I love the environmental working group. That's a wonderful resource. You said early on talking about the different underlying root causes that you have to have a high index of suspicion. And as you were saying that, I was thinking in 2023, the fact that you're a human on the planet at this time with all the toxins that we have and all the molds that we have and all of these micro infections. Really most everyone who has Hashimoto's should be checked for all of these heavy metals, molds, et cetera, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Absolutely, yes. You know, I totally agree with that. As I said, almost every client that I see, if we are doing a toxin test on them, they do have some or the other hidden toxins in their system. So it is like given that they will be having, you know, like toxins in the system and everybody should be checking for them. So now they know which toxins they're dealing with because not all toxins are the same and the protocols can be different for different toxins. So you have to do that specific protocol to remove that particular, but definitely toxins are playing a major role in almost every client of mine. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, you know, like we work on their detox system to remove the toxin.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's so true. And another quote you shared from Kevin Trudeau, most people have no idea how good their body is designed to feel. I think is AP applicable here? I do talk to women who have Hashimoto's and they've had part of an evaluation they've had looking for maybe one root cause or two root causes, but they never get to the place where they say, oh my gosh, I didn't know I could feel this good. Can you talk a little bit about how persistent does a woman need to be? How diligent does she need to be? But also how does a woman know when she's gotten to that place where she's addressed all the underlying causes and she feels as good as she can feel? How does she know when she's gotten there and how does she get there? So
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Again, you know, like unless you do the protocol, unless you change things, you do not know how good you can feel. Because it's been years people that come to see us have been suffering, have not been in good shape in their health for years. And sometimes like after some time, that becomes your second nature. Oh well yes, I'm tired. So what's the big thing? Oh, well you know, I'm not able to exercise, so what's the big deal? Well, my mood changes very frequently. I don't feel the joy in my life anymore. So what, you know, that's kind of middle age that happens with everybody, right? Oh, I'm brain foggy because I'm getting old, right? So these are the excuses, right? Lot of women, you know, have been told they're not kind of, you know, thinking about these things, but people around them, or when they go to the doctors or any of the providers, they tell them, oh, that's normal to feel this way, but let me tell you, that is not normal.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You should not be feeling this way. If you have feeling that your quality of life is not the same as before, then certainly you are missing out on things. And if you feed your body with the right things, if you kind of, you know, remove all the TOXs from your system, then your body gets better. So most of our females, like within a few months, they kind of not cannot imagine how good they can feel like going from like having a couple of naps in a day to actually going out to the gym and stocking a workout or doing a marathon. A lot of clients are doing it, not able to lose weight from losing like, you know, 15, 20 pounds is very normal in within four to five months for a lot of females. And actually not knowing what is clarity of mind because they have been so confused or overwhelmed all the time with all the responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And suddenly now they become so organized because they have that mental clarity to kind of do things and perceive what needs to be done. So these are bigger changes like, you know, like, you know, impacts the quality of life and now they actually see like the world and I say kind of HD space because first they were looking at world in an SD or like just a normal way. And now suddenly that the whole world becomes hd, they want to feel alive again. They say, I want to do things and I can do things. That's the biggest like, you know thing that almost each and every of our client when they work with us, they said, you know, I just feel that I got my life back again.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah. And that really is what it should feel like. I mean, I'm in my fifties and I've never felt better. Most of the time I should say of course I have my days. But if you're getting the answer from your providers that, oh, it's normal to wanna nap at midlife and you shouldn't have a great sex drive and you, it's okay to have lost your joy and medicate yourself with wine and chocolate, run <laugh>, right? Run to someone who can actually help you. And I love this not Han quote that you also shared and because it really speaks to kind of my philosophy on health, keeping your body healthy is an expression of gratitude to the whole cosmos, the trees, the clouds, everything. I really do believe that we, we have not only a right to optimum health, but we have an obligation. Can you talk a little bit about what this quote that you shared means to you?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, I think, you know, like we have forgotten what it feels like to be healthy. First of all, a lot of people are just kind of relying on medications to do their job and just kind of take their health to the next level. And that's not a reality. I'm not against medications. Absolutely. If you need the medications, you need it, but medications are just one tool in your toolbox that can make you feel better. There are several other tools. So your physical health definitely is one tool that you need to improve, but your mental and spiritual health is another tools that we need to focus on. And a lot of times, you know, I think we have this disconnect, you know, like in our modern world, we are living where we just feel the physical health takes the priority and that's the only thing we need to focus on.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And less and less people are focusing on the mental aspect of things and the spiritual aspects of things. So I think those are the things that we definitely need to kind of build that purpose, you know, of our life where we need to get better, we need to get the quality of life not only for ourselves, but also for our family, for our friends, for our kids, for everybody around us. Because what I've seen is that females are the center place in a family and if one female gets healthy, everybody around them actually suddenly becomes healthy. A lot of times, you know, like females come to see me, well you started me on this protocol and things, you know, I, I'm, I'm mainly cooking in the house, so my husband has already lost like 35 pounds and I'm already lost only to 15 pounds. And I'll say, well that's good. At least you lost 15. But we see these very often, their husband's health are getting better. Suddenly their mom's health are getting better, the kids are doing good in the school, much better than before, right? So you're not just doing it for yourself, we are doing it for your family and everybody else. And it's very important to focus on the mental and the spiritual aspect of health. That is definitely one of the missing pieces a lot of people do not pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I wholeheartedly agree. I think that that mental aspect, the emotional aspect, the spiritual aspect, and how do you tell people to start addressing that in their lives? I find that sometimes people who have a particular religion, they don't want to talk about that in terms or spirituality in terms of their physical health. And so I'm just wondering how you approach that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I think the way I approach is that, you know, like we have clearly have research studies that says that if you are stressed out, that is definitely a very big cause of Hashimoto disease. And again, stress can be physical, mental, and spiritual. So I tell them that, you know, that is happening just contributed, you know, in your disease process and unfortunately your disease process is making you feel not so good. And that is again, leading to more stress in all of these aspects of your life, whether it's physical, mental, or spiritual. So I tell them, you know, like whatever activity you like to participate, you like to do, start doing those things. That reduces the stress. Whether that is meditation, whether that is prayer, you know, whether that is kind of being a part of a community or a group or breathing exercises, anything that resonates with you is very important to incorporate just for a few minutes, 10, 15 minutes in your day mm-hmm is going to change your life yet going to kind of break that stress cycle and going to start making you feel better.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
So that's where, you know, and again, internet is good in that aspect. You have all these different kinds of meditations depending on what religion or belief system that people have. You know, it is available. So I try to kind of encourage people to look inside of themselves and kind of find that happy place, you know, that kind of brings joy to them and they want to go to that place again and a again every day basis because if they're finding joy, that kind of motivates them to go to that place every day. So I try to help them to find that happy place of them. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>,
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yes, you have to deal with the stress and find your joy and I think it really is worth it. I think that so many women with Hashimoto's believe that it's a life sentence and that they're never going to regain their physical capacity in terms of energy, sex drive, mindfulness or mental capacity or memory, whatever it is. And on a daily basis, I see women go from having very high th antithyroid antibodies to none whatsoever undetectable. And I'm wondering if you could share your experience with that and give people the hope that they really deserve to have that. This is pretty reversible <laugh>.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Absolutely. So we have obviously several stories about it, but you know, I'm just kind of currently working with this client, you know, had amazing story. A young female 34 years of age came to see us six months ago, was given a diagnosis of Hashimoto's four years ago, but she had symptoms even before that. She was again like a mom of two kids. So after the second pregnancies is where her symptoms started, she was tired all the time. She started gaining weight and was not able to lose that weight. She was having horrible stomach bloating and like constipation issues. Doesn't matter what she eats, she will just feel like she was bloated all the time. Because of that, she was having a lot of mood changes. Sometimes she'll feel low mood, sometimes stressed out or anxious. So she kept on going to doctors, something is wrong with me.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
They kept on doing only one blood test, which was the tsh, which was initially normal. She was told, well maybe you're just stressed out. Maybe you need to see a psychiatrist or a counselor. So she obviously saw a psychiatrist, even tried medications but actually backfired. She failed worse. So she stopped the medicines after three or four years, you know, after going through all this audio, finally her TA such did show that she has hypothyroidism. So she was happy. Oh well finally I found it and I'm going to get this medicine. Everything will be okay. She was start on the medicine, no changes. She was still feeling the same way as you. She was feeling again. Couple of years into that she started researching on internet what was going on. Then somebody suggested maybe you have Hashimoto's, a seizure. She went to a doctor and asked them to check the antibody levels and bingo, obviously she had Hashimoto's, a disease, but a regular doctor says, well what if you have Hashimotos diseases?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Your protocol or your program is going to be the same. Your thyroid numbers are within normal limits at T S H, so I'm going to put you on the same medicine. So that's where she was completely disheartened and lost hope that she could actually get better. So that's where she started looking into functional medicine. She found me and then started working with us. Her antibody levels were like, you know, 1200 or so, very, very high mm-hmm <affirmative>, although thyroid numbers, the T S H was in normal limits. She was taking the medicine. So then the first thing we did was that again, we looked at what are the potential root causes playing a role. So then she had some toxin exposures, like the mold toxins. She moved into this new house five years ago and that's where her symptoms got worse. She was exposed to a lot of stress at different parts in her life, which again was playing a role.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
And plus, you know, she had gut issues, you know, like we found that she had candida infection in her gut. So we made a stepwise plan, you know, like focused on the lifestyle changes, put her on some supplements, kinda addressing all of these and underlying root causes. And slowly and slowly couple of months into our protocol, again, amazing things happen. Her energy came back. She was a busy professional, actually she was running her own private like business, but she was not able to pay attention because she was so tired. But now actually she doubled her business, you know, like she was going on vacations with her kids, kids all the time. She was able to participate in kids' activities, you know, she already lost 11 pounds, you know, like working with us. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and then the biggest was result from that 1100. Within six months her antibodies levels came back to zero.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yes. So doctor completely flipped out. She said, I've never seen that happening. I think this is a lab error. I think we need to repeat it. She said, no, I'm working on it. So I believe that. She said, no, I don't believe it. I would like to repeat it. She said, I am not paying for it. She said, I don't. She said, I will. Doctor said I will pay for it, don't worry. Like I'll make sure you do not get charged. She repeated the blood test and again, the antibodies levels were undetectable. Doctor said, I don't know what you're doing, but something you're doing is working. Keep doing that. So she was so happy that finally, you know, like not only my numbers are better, my life is back. She said, you know, this is a complete win-win situation for her now.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Absolutely. So if you're listening and you're suffering with Hashimoto's or if you've got health concerns, you're tired, overweight, un any unresolved health concerns or symptoms definitely get checked. If you have some of the most common symptoms of thyroid disorders, like being tired or keeping weight on being constipated, losing your hair, having dry skin, brittle nails, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, memory disorders, I mean the list is extremely long. So really for a woman, if you're having any health symptoms, you need to get your thyroid properly checked. And that doesn't mean a standard of care, thyroid profile. It means seven or eight parameters that are done by a doctor who understands root cause identification, who understands root cause resolution like Dr. Gupta. Dr. Gupta has some amazing resources for you. We're gonna put links in the show notes to his book, to his YouTube channel, to his website, and also to his thyroid quiz. Do you wanna tell them a little bit about the thyroid quiz?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah. So again, you know, like a lot of people are having this question, how do I know what rules root causes I have? So obviously like, you know, we do not have a perfect way, but you know, like based on my kind of research and working with a lot of people, I kind of put together this quiz where people can answer kind of a couple of, or a bunch of questions and that can actually tell them that whether that particular root clause, you know, they should be looking into that or not. So after taking this quiz, they actually, you know, like order those five categories of root causes. They get a score in each category and that can tell them like what multiple categories they need to focus on to actually improve their thyroid and that those are the categories that they might be the major root causes for those people. So very easy quiz, you know, like people can maybe finish off in like five or 10 minutes, but then they get a g great kind of score that way in each category to know if they'd have no idea what root cause might be playing a role.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Great. Thank you so much for that resource. If you are having any of the symptoms we've been talking about, I encourage you to go to the link that will be in the show notes and take the quiz. Read Dr. Gupta's book. If you've got Hashimoto's, you suspect you've got it. He really knows what he's talking about in terms of identifying and fixing the root causes. Reversing Hashimoto's is possible and it's probable if you take the right steps. So I encourage you to do that. Thank you so much for the work that you're doing, Dr. Gupta, and thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Oh, it's a pleasure being over here. I totally like admire the work that you are doing, especially in women health, health space, helping so many people and sharing so much knowledge. You know, like, so I think you're giving hope to millions and millions of women out there that you know they can get their life back. So thank you so much for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Thank you and thank you listener for joining us for another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kirin. I hope that you've learned something today that you can put into action to take steps to move your help to the brilliant help that you deserve. It's available to you at any and every age. I look forward to hearing what steps you take and what outcomes you have on social media. So find me at Karen Dunston on Instagram or Facebook, and I will see you next week. Until then, peace, love, and hormones y'all.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
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Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
Why Fixing Your insulin Makes Menopause (And Other Things) Magic
Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
Welcome to the latest episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, where we dive deep into the world of hormones and empower you with the knowledge you need to take control of your hormonal health. In today's episode, "Why Fixing Your Insulin Makes Menopause (And Other Things) Magic", we are joined by the amazing Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo. With over 30 years of clinical experience and a wealth of expertise under her belt, Dr. Ritamarie is a true authority on functional health and holistic healing.
About Our Guest: Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo
Dr. Ritamarie, the founder of the Institute of Nutritional Endocrinology, is passionately committed to transforming our current broken disease-focused system into a true health care system. She believes in finding the root cause of health challenges and using the wisdom of nature combined with modern scientific research to restore balance. A licensed Doctor of Chiropractic with certifications in Acupuncture, Nutrition, Herbal Medicine, and HeartMath®, Dr. Ritamarie specializes in insulin, thyroid, adrenal, and digestive imbalances. She is also a master at using palate-pleasing, whole fresh food as medicine.
As a best-selling author, speaker, and internationally recognized nutrition and functional health authority, Dr. Ritamarie shares her wealth of knowledge through her podcast, Reinvent Healthcare, promoting a global movement for root-cause care.
Key Takeaways: Insulin's Role in Menopause
In this episode, we delve into the critical role insulin plays in menopause and how fixing your insulin can lead to a "magical" menopause journey. Dr. Ritamarie shares her expertise on how balancing insulin levels supports hormone regulation, weight management, and overall well-being during this significant life transition.
Some highlights from our conversation include:
- The connection between insulin resistance and menopausal symptoms
- How diet and lifestyle changes can dramatically improve your insulin sensitivity
- The importance of regular exercise and stress management in balancing blood sugar levels
- How hormone balancing can lead to better sleep, increased energy, and improved quality of life
Dr. Ritamarie's insights will have you feeling inspired, motivated, and more informed about the significant role insulin plays in your hormonal health during menopause and beyond.
Tune In and Transform Your Menopause Journey!
Ready to discover the magic of fixing your insulin during menopause?Join us for this illuminating conversation with Dr. Ritamarie Loscalzo in the latest episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast. Don't miss out on these valuable insights and practical advice to help you take control of your hormonal health and make your menopause journey a truly magical experience!
If you found this episode helpful, be sure to share it with your friends and leave us a review to help other midlife women find the podcast. And don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
Until next time, here's to your hormonal health!
Speaker 1 (00:00):
“Don't exchange what you want most or what you want at the moment.” Dr. Rita Marie Loscalzo.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones in our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself Again. As an ob gyn, I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue, now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much for joining me today. My guest today, Dr. Rita Mari Loscalzo. It was one of your favorites in the Stop The Menopause Madness Summit, the Summit 2.0 and the Summit 100 because she's amazing and I love her. She's just a force. She is a force of nature. She has so much passion. She's on purpose. She helps so many people. She's a brilliant wealth of knowledge, a font of knowledge, and she walks the walk and talks the talk. So you're gonna love hearing her talk about a super important topic, insulin resistance and menopause and perimenopause. She talks about why insulin resistance is really an issue for both men and women, males and females at every age. So why should everyone be concerned? She's gonna make sure that you're aware of the tests that you need and how to read them properly.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Because what your lab says is normal doesn't mean that's what's optimal and you should be shooting for. So she's gonna clarify that. She's gonna help you understand how I know if Dr. Rita Maria is talking to me. She's gonna cover the top strategies you can use if you are having insulin resistance that you can start using today. She gives you some real practical knowledge and you're just gonna love our conversation cuz she's amazing. I will remind you a little bit about Dr. Rina Marie Loscalzo and then we'll get started. She is the founder of the Institute of Nutritional Endocrinology. She's passionately committed to transforming our current broken disease focus system into a true healthcare system where every practitioner is skilled at finding the root cause of health challenges and uses the wisdom of nature combined with modern scientific research to restore balance. Dr. Rita Maria, licensed doctor of chiropractic with certifications in acupuncture, nutrition, herbal medicine and heart math specializes in insulin, thyroid and adrenal and digestive imbalances. She's also a master at using palate pleasing whole fresh food as medicine and is a bestselling author, speaker and internationally recognized nutrition and functional health authority with over 30 years of clinical experience. Her podcast Reinvent Healthcare provides health and wellness practitioners around the globe to be part of the movement to provide root cause care to people in need. Please help me welcome Dr. Rita Mari Scalzo to the show. I'm super
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Excited to be here. I love having our conversations and just really sharing valuable information that helps people get their health back, get their lives back. So thank you for inviting. I
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Know, right, right. Oh I'm so, it's always a great conversation with you and I don't even know where to start cuz there's so many things that I would love to talk to you about. But I know we're gonna dive into insulin and menopause. I guess I would start with when did you first realize that this was a colossal problem for women as they age, that insulin resistance was an issue?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, what I first realized is that it's an, it's a problem at any age and that it's mostly ignored for so long that it becomes serious as we get to menopause. Do you know what I mean? It's like it's a problem in young people, it's a problem in children, right? But nobody's measuring it properly until it gets like it could be 30 years in the making and then all of a sudden somebody hits menopause and boom, right? They're like suddenly off the charts with their fasting blood sugars and they're having all the highs and lows and we suddenly say, oh, this person has insulin resistance or even diabetes and it gets worse at menopause. So part of why it gets worse is menopause is the cumulative effect, right? Part of it is that throughout time people are eating a bunch of garbage, being exposed to a lot of chemicals, not being able to detoxify their environment, having a lot of stress.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Their cortisol levels are through the roof which raises blood sugar, which then affects insulin and insulin resistance. And it's suddenly like, like everything else, it hits the fan at menopause. Cuz now there's this serious change in hormones. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and lack of estrogen and then the lack of estrogen, right? Estrogen affects the, the insulin receptors, ex estrogen affects the U utilization of ES insulin. And then when we have this blah blah blah <laugh> that happens at perimenopause and then the blah that happens at menopause, you know, the weight dropping down, then we have a problem. So when did I realize this? I mean I started realizing this in patients a long time ago. Like, I don't know, probably 20 years ago, maybe even more. A lot of the problems that my patients were having were related to insulin
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Imbalance. So yeah, you've known it for a long time. I came in through the traditional route where in mainstream medicine, you know, insulin isn't a thing. We don't check it unless you're diabetic and you know, the parameters that we use are just, are wholly and adequate. Yeah. Can you talk a little bit about that? Cuz people still get confused with my recommendations for monitoring your insulin. And I always say insulin is that loose thread on the knotted ball of yarn. I used to knit when I was in college and my, I had this cat and the cat used to bat my yarn all over the place and then I would've to untangle it after my knitting session. And you know, how do you untangle a knotted bowl of yarn? Cuz that's what your hormones are doing by the time you get to menopause is you find the loose thread. And I always say that the loose thread is insulin. So when you mention that it's not being tested properly and really it affects everyone all ages, which is so true, diabetes is increasing in grade school children to epidemic proportion. So what should people be getting tested for?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, first of all, I think everybody needs to have a baseline insulin tested. Of course we, we do fasting glucose, that's you learned in medical school, do fasting glucose and as long as it's below one 20, they're fine. Don't worry about it. But we should be testing fasting insulin. We absolutely should be. Because you know, kids who, like some kids can go hours and hours playing and then they, you know, they don't have to eat and other kids are like, they're, you know, crazy because they haven't eaten in a while. High levels of insulin show themselves first as that I can't make it more than a couple of hours between meals, right? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And so I think we should be testing it the, the minute any kid gets tested, right? I think usually you go to a doctor and you have your annual exams.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
But here's the thing, the good and not good, you might have learned in medical school that anything up to 19 was good. If you look at the labs, it says up to 19 for fasting, insulin is fine. That's a serious, serious problem. And when we look at more of the functional ranges, two to five, and ideally two to three, like if somebody's really in good control, their fasting insulin should be between two and three. And I can tell you how many people I have worked with that they come in with fasting insulins in the twenties, some people even in the thirties, and they've been told, oh you're fine. It's not a problem. You're not diabetic but you're heading to be become diabetic. So it's really important. A lot of people say test a1c, there's a lot of, I like a1c, hemoglobin A1C to test like your averages of your glucose over time.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But there's so many variations in that, like in athletes and if you're anemic and all this, where it could be a false reading, insulin is not gonna be a false reading. If you have a good fasting glucose and your fasting insulin is high, you are heading for a disaster. And it may take 10, 20, even 30 years before disaster hits. But meanwhile all the metabolic changes that are caused by high levels of insulin, which is stiffening of the arteries, which is blood pressure changes, changes in thyroid reception, you know, the receptors for thyroid, all that stuff is happening over time. And then suddenly the person gets DIA diagnosis as diabetic and then suddenly they have all these problems. And for some people they have all the diabetic challenges before they even become diabetic. I had one guy had the retinopathies and they say, oh what, what's going on? His, his A1C was 10. Nobody ever caught that cuz his fasting glucose was 95. Right? Yeah. So these people are being missed.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah. You know, it's so true. When I did my fellowship training in the anti-aging metabolic and functional medicine, we had this one professor, can't think of his name right this second, but I, I'll never forget sitting there watching him and him kind of going through all the things you we are talking about and kind of saying how mainstream medicine manages it. You know, they check a fasting blood glucose, it's 95, they don't get excited. Of course we functional people get very excited and they just watch it kind of go up and up and up and they never check anything else. And then all of a sudden people have complications of diabetes even though they don't have a diagnosis of diabetes. And then they look and oh, we did a hemoglobin a1c, you have diabetes, you get to wear the team jersey, you get to stick your finger for the rest of your life and take these medications. And it's like you get to join the team. But why was nobody looking to see that you were being recruited for 5, 10, 20 years?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So, because it's not the medical model, right? The medical model is based on treating disease and there's some great tools for, you know, broken bones and surgery. I mean there's some good tools for massive infections, but we're not looking for helping people prevent disease, not looking to help people be healthy. It's looking for disease and then we can treat it. I watch things, you know, when I do blood chemistries, you probably do the same. You map 'em out. And so when you're looking at somebody's, let's say their liver enzymes, right? And you're going, oh, your liver enzymes are fine, but they're five points higher than they were last year. They're still in ideal range, but they were, oh, and the year before they were five points lower than that and you, what's going on? What kind of toxicity are you dealing with? Do you have mold in your house? Do you mm-hmm <affirmative> have, you know, some crazy stuff that you're dealing with. But that's not what medicine, mainstream conventional medicine is based on. That's what functional medicine is based on.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Okay. So let's give us quick synopsis so everyone can write this down. Not if you're driving <laugh>, but they can write this down. What tests should they everyone be having specifically?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I think fasting glucose, fasting insulin? You mean in terms of metabolic health or overall <laugh>
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Overall? Well when we're talking about for insulin management and then also if you can give the optimal values what they should be looking for. Sure. Yeah. Fast fasting and yeah,
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Glucose should be in, you know, low eighties, you know, up to 85. Could be in the seventies, right? If it's below that, then you wanna make sure, oh, if you're on a keto diet, it's probably gonna be in the sixties or seventies, no big deal. Somebody's eating a ton of carbohydrates and they're fasting glucose is in the sixties, then they probably have some kind of craziness like this going on and that's why it's so low. Mm-Hmm <affirmative>. And then fasting insulin should be between two and five, ideally two to three hemoglobin a1c and ideally it should be right around five, you know? Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, give or take a little bit, but right around five they're saying okay, you're 5.7 or you're not quite 5.8. So you're not insulin resistance yet. Oh you're 5.8 now you're insulin resistant. I mean it's, it's crazy. Right? So we're wanting them to be around five, which is an average glucose of about 96, 97, 98, something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Mm-Hmm <affirmative>. But then we also wanna look at inflammatory markers because it, this whole insulin resistance thing in inflammation is huge. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. And so we wanna look at creactive protein, highly sensitive creactive protein. I like to look at homocysteine because that's a huge one, especially when we're talking cardiovascular and there's so many cardiovascular complications out of control. Insulin, I a full thyroid panel. Right. Because they're all interrelated and if you have a thyroid problem, you can't fix your insulin problem, you have an insulin problem, you can't fix your thyroid problem, you gotta fix both. Right? Right. So those are my mainstays and of course CBCs and all the blood counts, liver enzymes, cuz they're all connected. Right? Right. We have to set a complete panel. But those are the things that are often missed on the standard panel. G G T, I don't know if you've noticed this because you probably don't, you probably include it, but most panels that they get at their hospital, their doctor, they don't include G t, which is a liver enzyme, but it's a really good marker of exposure to toxins. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, why are we not looking at and alcohol? Yes. They go, oh, I don't drink very much, I don't drink very much. Oh, why is your G G T 35? Come on. Right, right. I've had people where I've looked at their G G T and I said, what are you doing for, did you, I don't usually drink. Well did you go to a party or a wedding right before you had this tested? Oh yeah. How did you know that? Yeah, I just, the blood doesn't lie.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No, I think that we humans like to think that we're not affecting our bodies with our habits and things that we do like drinking. So it is kind of like you've got this crystal ball when you do do the GT and you see it's elevated and you say, were you drinking at a party? And they're like, were you spying on me? Yes. Your body does notice alcohol. Like talk like let's just have a little diversion. Talk about alcohol for a minute. Oh what <laugh> what would you want people to know about alcohol in their health? Because everybody wants to say, well the French drink two glasses of red wine a day, they have no cardiovascular disease. I can drink it with impunity. I'm not doing anything to myself. So what are your thoughts on that? That,
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So I'm not popular with my alcohol opinions. <Laugh>, I'm against it. Well it's not me either. Alcohol, it's organic, I don't care. Number one, it's addictive. And here's the thing. People say, I'm not gonna get addicted. I'm not gonna get addicted. You don't know when you cross that threshold. And some people cross that threshold at, you know, they just drink two glasses of wine a day. But then if they miss it, they're like, you know, right. They're that alcoholic. Like, I gotta get it. I gotta get it. Anything that's addictive, I'm against. Same thing with caffeine, with coffee. Like people say, oh but it's organic and it doesn't have the fungus in it and I'm putting CT oil in it and I'm making it healthy, but it's addictive. I watch people, you probably see the same thing at the conferences we go to.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Like, I gotta go get my coffee. If you gotta go get your coffee, there's something metabolically out of balance that you need to correct. If you have a cup of coffee every now and then, cuz you go out with a friend and you just want the taste of it. That's very different. Same thing with alcohol. Every now and then you grab a glass of wine. But there were some studies that showed that even two glasses of wine a day a week, not a day, a week increase the risk of breast cancer by 14%. That's huge. I always say to people wish you like better your breasts or your coffee, your breasts or your, or your your alcohol. You know, I kind of like my breasts and I wanna keep them where they're, I don't, yeah. I don't wanna them for the, the 30 seconds on my tongue of pleasure with alcohol or, or caffeine.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So I'm against it. It affects the lining of your gut. It affects the absorption, it affects the, certainly the microbiome because it's like sugar. It affects the liver and it gets absorbed like sugar. So it's like right. Sugar right into the bloodstream. So it, it can of course lead to fatty liver. That's what we see. And we're seeing a lot of people who are not alcoholics these days that have fatty liver. Like I, I saw a statistic like 49 or 50% of the population has fatty liver. Wow. I mean it's truly preventable. Right? So I don't like alcohol and it affects brains, it kills brain cells and it affects your, of course it affects your cognition and your ability to drive or you know, to think clearly. And we use it to lose inhibition. And I'm like, why don't we just lose inhibition <laugh>, why don't we just, why don't we just like do the work so that you feel comfortable with who you are to just be who you are and be silly and fun and serious when you need to. Right. But to be able to turn it on and off because if you're drinking, you can't turn it back on. You can't turn your brain back on.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right. That's right. I'm curious what you think about this cuz you know, I have similar unpopular views about alcohol and health and I, you know, I just don't drink. But I have some patients who they really like it because they have a certain degree of social anxiety. And so I've started recommending that they use some form of T H C B gummies or droplets or something like that. And I'm wondering if you have any opinion on that because I say it won't affect your health as negatively.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah. I don't really, oh, so you said T hc not C, B D or did you say
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Right T HC tc so that you,
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Because it's outta my jurisdiction to even prescribe something like that. Mine you
Speaker 3 (18:07):
<Laugh>, you know, it's not even in the state. Like we can't get it anywhere here except by, you know, the, the guy on the corner that's selling it. And usually it's not in gummies, it's in, you know, and anyway that I don't wanna get people into the seediness of it and possibly get things laced that are bad. I don't think, I think that would be calmer. That would be a better alternative. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> if it's small amounts. But again, people, the jury's out I think on how addictive T H C is. Yeah. Like some people say it's not, and some people say it is, it depends on the maturity of their brain. But what about if there's social anxiety? A lot of times that's, there's some imbalances that are related there, right? Magnesium zinc and B6 for example. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> Right. Imbalances there. And they may say, well I take a, I take a multi and I have my B6 and my may need more of it because of a genetic tendency to not get rid of the, what am I, what am I trying to think? The, the word. The word just escape my mind. But there's a particular chemical that gets produced from hemoglobin that we can't eliminate. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay. This is, we're gonna play the 20 questions. Gabe <laugh>. So you're gonna guess what I'm thinking of cuz my brain isn't coming up with the word not purines anyway. It'll come to me.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It'll come to you. Yeah. It'll
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Come to me. But it's basically a byproduct of hemoglobin production and the body in certain people can't get rid of it and it builds up and that creates a lot of the social, an anxiety and V6 and zinc help to eliminate that. And you can do a urine test to see if there's a problem there and you can address that. Right. Some of the other things with social anxiety might be, you know, old traumas and emotional things and working with it on that end. But as a temporary kind of bandaid solution, I think they're probably better off if they can get that non illegally and not and safely, let's just say safely. Right?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I meant legally I wasn't saying illegal. So yeah. It's just something I've been playing around with because the alcohol is a toxicant and most people don't realize that. And you know, you can, if you drink too much, you will die. It's, it's a toxicant. So if you're trying to get your health straightened out best not to do that. But let's jump back to insulin. All right. So we've talked about the test, we've talked about what they should be looking for, but what are the symptoms that a woman might notice? Say she's been going to the doctor, she really doesn't have health problems, but then she's noticing she's gaining weight around her middle and then of course the cycles are getting less and less and then eventually stop and you know, the top symptoms of perimenopause and menopause where you're losing your sex drive and maybe getting some hair loss and some memory and and cognitive functioning are going down. What would key her in that? Dr. Rita? Marie's talking to me. I need to look at this. I know you think everyone should I do too. Yeah, I think everybody
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Should, but what would, yeah,
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's not convinced. So
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Everybody's not convinced and by the way it's pylori.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well that would be a zebra, but Yeah, you should, you can.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It would be, but it's not as, and not as much of a zebra as you think. Right. It's actually more common than we think. And I've done the, the blood test, not the blood. It's a urine test.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right. So looking for other causes of social anxiety. Totally agree with you.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You wanna look at that, right? We always wanna have, here's the thing, we wanna get to the cause. We wanna correct the imbalances that's causing things. And then we want to, in the interim or while we're working on the cause, we wanna look at the the least invasive symptom management that we can come up with. Absolutely. The least invasive. So going back to that, how would they know? Well they're craving sugar after they eat a big meal, they're still hungry and they want more, usually something sweet. They can't go for more than a few hours without eating or after eating. They feel, you know, when they do, they feel kind of, you know, spacey and crazy. They're under a lot of stress and that cortisol, you know, causes it and they're gaining that weight around the middle is a real clear sign. If you're gaining weight around the middle, it's very often a sign of insulin resistance. Right. So all of those things, what else? You know that fatigue, you know, you, me, you mentioned that, right? All of those things add up, right? I'm tired all the time. I never used to be, I'm craving sugar. I can't get full after a meal. I can't make it long spaces between meals. All those things are indications that, that you need to check this out as well. Yeah. But it's not just garden variety menopause.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Right. I agree. But, and I do think all women should have this <laugh> done every year.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Every year it's part of their $35 test. Come on. If the doctor won't do it, you get it on your own $35. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Right. Okay. So now, and the truth is, in my experience, more women than not have some degree of insulin resistance as they approach 50 and past 50. Yeah. So once you know you have a problem, how do they go about addressing it?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well, it's all the things we teach in general, right. It's addressing the, the diet. It's addressing the lifestyle. It's addressing the stress, addressing the sleep spacing of the meals movement. And with the food, I love getting people to either get a C G M. Mm-Hmm <affirmative>, a continuous glucose monitor. So you can actually see, oh I just ate this meal, you know, oh this meal kept me nice and steady. Or you just poke the thing. People don't like to do that as much. But you know, when you poke, poke you have a meal, you test your blood sugar beforehand with the finger prick you have the meal. And then I usually have people test right after because sometimes it starts to go up and then every half hour or so, 20, I like to say 15 to 20 minutes because you wanna catch the peak.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
But once you know how long your peak takes to get mm-hmm. <Affirmative> to like, if you find it, it's always 45 minutes. Why am I doing this? Just test it at 45 minutes. And then you find, what is that peak, the height of the glucose after a meal and then it comes down, what is that for my average foods? And then you eliminate those foods that cause a high peak. In my opinion. It shouldn't go above one 10 in my opinion. And also the clinical research I've done and in the people I've worked with where we go in and we just say, just let's just test this on your normal food. And then they shift their diets and they do a metabolic reset. I take people through like a 30 day metabolic reset of really not doing anything that's gonna raise their insulin levels. So we're addressing the stress, we're getting them to do movement but not over, you know, not training for a marathon because that could be stressful cells to go up.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Right. And then change the diet and get rid of the refined stuff. Get rid of the sugars. Even a lot of people, I'm one of them, don't do well with grains of any kind. Yeah. I don't do well with grains of any kind. It could just causes my, I mean checked every single one wild rice is O okay. It doesn't go up as high. Very sweet fruit. I figured out that if I eat very sweet fruit, I have to eat it with a lot of greens to slow down the absorption and then I can have my mango. So then I can have, or I've have a mango with an avocado that will dissipate that high peak. But learning how to eat the foods, the good healthy foods that raise glucose, find out what your trigger foods are and then you eliminate them. And for everybody it's gonna be sugar.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Example, my husband and I go out for our anniversary uhhuh. We go to a restaurant that used to have this amazing menu and they've changed it a lot. So we're picking and choosing and I go, oh the Brussels sprouts with sriracha should be fine. We taste it, it's a little sweet. I'm like, there's probably maple syrup or you know, balsamic glaze or something in this. Right. I ate it anyway just to see. And my blood sugars went up to like 1 35. He decides to get the crab cakes with breaded crab cakes. And I'm like, that's crazy. His went up to 1 72.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay. So it's just, we learn and he's going, oops, I guess I'm not gonna do that again. I thought I could get away with it after all the good food I've been eating. Like we all have a different genetic tendency and some people can get away with it for longer and other people can't. So I
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Love that you mentioned your husband cuz I don't believe I've met him, but I don't think so. But he eats healthy kind of like you do and low glycemic. And
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He does. He does. And he makes most of our food. So he, you know, and he'll, he'll do something he'll like when we're out. He'll have, he will have gluten when we go out. He'll have a little dairy when we go out. I don't wanna eat any of those things. Right. And he is not as strict as I am. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So, but when we're home and he's exercising, like he goes out for a 10 mile bike ride or a 10 mile hike or he's exercising like crazy and he has diabetes in his family, his doc, his father was on insulin type two, but his pan pancreas wore out. So I know he has that genetic tendency. I have diabetes in my family, but also I know from testing I looked at my genes, I look at genes and my genes are like, yeah, I'm not good with <laugh> with handling sugars.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah. My my family, me and my family either. I'm just wondering because a lot of the women I work with, cuz they only work with women, once they get the C G M and they really start learning about their blood sugar and they change how they eat, then they complain, my husband won't eat this way. Or that's sometimes an objection to why they don't even wanna do it in the first place. I can't cook two meals. My family will never accept no grains, no gluten, no sugar, no this, that and the other. I'm wondering how you coach people through that.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Absolutely. So it's not a matter of cooking two meals. It's a matter of making side dishes for the people who will eat it. So if we're making like a big stir fry, right. I don't eat the rice. If he makes rice, I don't eat the rice. If he makes a big, you know, a big kind of vegetable casserole or roasted vegetables or whatever else, and he'll eat, he'll eat fish with that or he'll eat potatoes with that. I won't eat that. And that's not his most common thing. He does that periodically more for holidays. But we just get along that way. We, we do eat differently. He'll put balsamic vinegar on his salad. I won't, he likes canned arti cho cards. I don't like them. I I just don't like them that way. I want a fresh artichoke if I'm going to eat artichoke. So there's things we don't do, but you make a core meal that is healthy for everyone.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you don't go out and buy, you know, Domino's pizza for the family. Right. You don't, you want your whole family to be eaten healthfully, but there's certain things you may have to restrict mm-hmm. <Affirmative> well the way they don't, so it's not like eating two meals, it's like making a core meal and then you make some side dishes. How hard is it to put on a pot of rice? Right. Right. How hard is it to steam up some something, you know, or put, put a piece of fish in the oven or whatever they, they want to eat that you don't want to eat. You just don't mix it in with the, the main meal. Right. Which is what you want.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah. Yeah. It is possible and it can be easy, but I think it does require a little thought and it's thought it's thoughts that people haven't thunk before. So yes, <laugh> it's a new skill. Yes. But I agree it can be done. I wanna ask you about the role of exercise or supplements for helping out with insulin resistance at in perimenopause and menopause.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Absolutely. So yeah, trained muscles are much more insulin sensitive than untrained muscles. Right. So we just wanna, we wanna work out, you wanna work out within your capacity, right? So somebody who's been a marathon runner and is running five miles a day, that's no big deal. Somebody who's been a couch potato all their life, you don't tell 'em to go out running all day. But you, you also have to look at their state of their adrenals. And most people, by the time they hit me menopause and perimenopause, their adrenals are shot because of all the stressors that they've been under for so long. So we wanna take that into account. So I say the amount of exercise that when you do it, you feel good and you wanna go do it again the next day versus I can't exercise again for three days. That's right.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Burst exercise is awesome. I have this little thing that I have keep in my office behind me and it's a little stair stepper and you go up and down, up and down, up and down as fast as you can for 30 seconds. And if you do that multiple times throughout the day, the burst training has been shown to increase insulin sensitivity so much better than aerobics. Or the same, right. If you do, 30 seconds is like 30 minutes of aerobics in terms of the effect on insulin sensitivity, of course you don't get the same cardiovascular effects. So doing both. So exercise is super critical. And supplementation, there's certain supplements we know help with insulin sensitivity and they tend to be things that get worn out over time. Right. And or depleted in the soils where people don't generally eat a lot of. So magnesium, magnesium super important for improving insulin sensitivity.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And we know it's important for hormonal balance. I always put people on magnesium in the second half of their menstrual cycles because it helps with mobilizing and eliminating the extra hormones. And that's what happens in perimenopause. Like it's not that the hormones just suddenly drop, it's a blink and the the levels are so inconsistent. So if we improve the elimination of those, we're gonna do better. Right. Yeah. The, the conjugated, you know, the things that are already metabolized. So what else is good? Chromium is really important. It's really good for that. And we're depleted in our soils. So people benefit from the addition of chromium fatty acids like e b A and d H a, especially D H A has been shown to be insulin sensitizing. And then there's other little foods that I like to throw in at Berberine is an herb. It's a, it's an extract from an herb of like Oregon grape root and golden seal, golden rod.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
There's a bunch of different things. But berberine has been shown to be very helpful for reversing the effects of insulin resistance much safer than metformin. It's been studied alongside mess metformin. And then some foods, like my talking mushrooms traditionally used to help stabilize blood sugar. So much so that some people who have been on it, that have been doing my programs with me, they get to a point where they have to stop taking it at bedtime because their sugars go way down overnight and it wakes 'em up. Wow. That much. That's amazing. Yep. Yeah. I have a handout that you know, you could, you might, I might wanna give you to share with your listeners and it's basically, it's like a six page chart which has pictures of the, of the different foods and herbs and their mechanism and how it affects the insulin. And I can certainly get that to you and you can share that that with your people cuz it's just a really
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Nice I sure would love that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
And chocolate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I wasn't aware of the maitake mushrooms. That's fascinating. I'll have to look into that. Yeah. So yes, there are lots of foods, supplements you can add exercise for sure. Changing the way you eat that I, I'd say that's the three pronged stool. But what about the fourth prong in terms of, you know, I've had some women get the cgm, the continuous glucose monitor and then they freak out because they say, Kiran, I didn't even eat anything and my blood sugar went up. And I say, well what were you thinking about? Oh well I was upset at my husband because X, Y, and Z happened. Right? And I go, oh, so we have to have the conversation about how emotions affect your blood sugar. Yes, yes. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, that's the stress response. I call it the candy bar eating effect of stress. It's like your sugar goes up as if you ate a candy bar and you didn't have the fun of eating the candy bar. You just got to yell at somebody or get all upset. So yeah. So when the body produces cortisol in response to stress stressful emotions or a stressful situation with someone else, the cortisol is meant to help us run away from tigers. Right. Get safe. So it mobilizes stored sugar. So it'll go to the glycogen stores which are in the liver and the muscles and it'll release those stored sugars so that you can run away. But if there's nothing to run away from, then they just raise your blood sugar and it doesn't go down. So I always tell people if you do have a stressful situation and it raises your blood sugar, go for a little walk, do some, you know, squats at your desk or do some kind of exercise to burn the calories to burn those extra sugars that just got released into your bloodstream. So it's a big thing. I always have people do either meditation or heart math or both or you know, other kinds of things to breathing, breathe techniques, <laugh>, you know, just breathe.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Just breathe. And I love these quotes that you shared with me before we started that I wanna share. So I wanna talk about them. I'll kind of lay 'em out. You have every choice Matters, which I love. Don't exchange what you want most for what you want in the moment. Mm-Hmm <affirmative>. And nothing tastes as good as healthy feels. I love all of these. Do you wanna elaborate on any of them?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah. So we get to make choices all day long. Way more choices than we even are consciously aware that we're making. We just make them right. Are you gonna get up in the morning and meditate? Are you gonna go back to sleep? Are you gonna get up and have a donut and a coffee? Are you gonna go for a run? Like all these choices and every minute throughout the day we have a choice to make and every choice matters and how our bodies biochemically react and how we look and how we feel and how we show up in the world. So every choice matters. The other one don't exchange what you want most for what you want in the moment. One of the things we do with people right at the start of working with them is get them in touch with what their big why.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
What do you, why do you wanna get your help back? What matters most to you? Right? Does it matter that your hands are all crumpled up and you wanna play the piano again and you know, or does it, you wanna be able to play around with your grandchildren? Do you wanna go have a nice, a nice vacation with your partner and hike and not be restricted? And if that's your what you want most and you're sitting there and you have a choice to have some chocolate chip cookies and some cake and some ice cream, you have to think in terms of what do I want most? Is this gonna lead me to the health and the energy that I need for all those things I want most? And you have to say, well nope, I guess not. I'm gonna choose something different. So that's where it means you're exchanging it cuz you're actually saying, oh well I'll just have this. Well you're exchanging what you want most is energy and freedom in your body for 30 seconds on your tongue of chocolate chip cookies or whatever. So that's the other one. And then the third one is, nothing tastes as good as healthy fields cuz you're like, oh, it just tastes so good. But if you've ever felt like truly healthy and unstoppable and like you have energy and stamina and you can do what you want whenever you want, that there's nothing that tastes better to me that I would exchange that for.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know, you are the vision of unstoppable, the title of your book, and you're just like a powerhouse of passion and purpose and performance and just what you do for people. You're a force. And can you talk a little bit about, I think this quote, speak to it and everything you've shared today really speaks to it. But talk a little bit about your philosophy on life.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Wow. My philosophy on life.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Fun is super important. Pleasure is super important. Enjoyment. I wanna be able to enjoy every moment. I wanna be able to have the freedom to say, oh yeah, let's go on that hike and not say, oh, I'm too tired, my knees hurt, whatever. So my philosophy is being aligned with purpose, being aligned with nature. I mean, I'd much rather be outside than in here, you know, in in air conditioned room with lights on versus out there. But you know, bringing the computer out and recording a podcast outdoors gets a little tricky. So I don't, I come inside, but I'd much rather be outside. I'd much rather be out there convening with nature and growing vegetables and you know, there's just things that, that's my philosophy on life. I, I wanna be, I wanna be outside more than inside. I wanna be active more than inactive. And I wanna, I wanna have joy and facilitate others to experience the joy that they deserve and they can have.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yes. And it's a sad truth though, that a lot of joy requires good health <laugh>. Yeah. Right. And that when we don't have good health, we lose our joy. And so I think that what we do to help people become healthy really does help to increase joy in the world. You are certainly a vision of that and I thank you so much for shedding light on this super important topic. This really can take a lot of menopausal women down and they don't even know it. They're just thinking it's their sex hormones and they don't realize Yes. That there are these other hormones like insulin that are vital. So thank you. Yeah. Thank you for sharing this. We have Dr. Rita Maria has some amazing gifts for you. We're gonna have a link in the show notes. She has her hormone balancing elixirs, she's gonna talk about that. We have, she has her hormone hacking breakfast menus, I think for menopause. Right. So do you wanna talk a little bit about these?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah. So the elixir, you know, I, I love herbs and I love drinks and I love creating these things. And I realized, I don't know when, this was like 10 years ago and I started to think, well then, you know, the magical drinks of the you know the ages, right? So what can we put together? So I put together some hormone balancing elixirs. So they're, they've got herbs and mushroom powders. If you're not allergic, you'll leave them out. I always tell people they say, I can't make your thing cuz I'm allergic to that ingredient. Eat it out. <Laugh>. Doesn't matter. Right. So it's a really nice little book that has a base recipe and then several like for energy and for stamina. And then there's a list in there of the different herbs and spices and things you can substitute in based on what hormones you're trying to balance. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah. Thank
Speaker 3 (40:02):
You for that. And then the other one, the breakfast. Oh, you're welcome. It's, it's, you know what I've seen with that when people do this, I had one of them in there, it's, I think it's called the energy elixir. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. And I had somebody say, oh wow, after a month my hair's growing back, my look at how thick my hair is after a month. So other people heard her say that and they started using it and I kept getting stories like that. I'm like, is there a way I can patent this? And you know, a million dollars by <laugh> selling the hair balancing elixir. Right. But that was, it's really fun and people love them. And I have, in my kitchen, I have my elixir station, so I have all these glass jars kind of like this, but they're straight up and down. Oh, you can't see it if, if you're listening, but like a a, you know, a 24 ounce, a
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Mason jar.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah. With a lid. And then at the top of the lid I have the name of what's in there. So I have my EPS and ashwagandha and, and my taki and my, all these different herbs and they're in my kitchen and I have the pot that I can make hot water in and I can just like pour it in and press the button and make hot water. And then I put it all together and the elixir recipes show you how to flavor them and how to spice them. And they're really good. The other one is the breakfast. Most people screw it up when it comes to breakfast. Right. <laugh>, orange juice, coffee, a donut, a bagel a a croissant or if they're really being good oatmeal donut, a hormone balancing breakfast. Right,
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
So I put together menus like, here's the five components that you need to have in your meal to start the day. And whether you eat breakfast in the morning or you fast until noon or two, like I sometimes I haven't eaten anything yet today I'll have my breakfast at two. I will include all of those components in my meal to keep my blood sugar steady throughout the day to keep my hormone steady throughout the day. And so I have that and then there's a bunch of recipes in there. So it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Nice. Thank you so much for those. Yes. Breakfast, we really do, we screw up Breakfast in America <laugh>. So we need breakfast rescue. So thank you for that. And thank you for the elixir. And we will have the link in the show notes so you can find it there and tell everyone where else they can find you and connect with you.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Absolutely. So dr rita marie.com is my main website if you're a health practitioner, I have one called I n E Method, but it's linked from the main site. And then I'm on Instagram, Facebook, where else am I on regularly? Linkedin. And you just look up Dr. Rita Marie there. And then I have a YouTube channel. It's Dr. Rita Marie's Functional Health channel. And I post there, I usually do a live there once a week and I have probably seven, 800 out there. And I have a podcast called Reinvent Healthcare, mainly geared towards health practitioners, functional medicine doctors, nurses, health coaches, et cetera. But a lot of non, a lot of lay people listen in because it's just full of deep media information. And you were on there. Yes,
Speaker 1 (43:00):
We talked. Yes, I was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, we did adrenal sex what are we talking about? Menopause Adrenal connection. So yes, it's den healthcare.com.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes. Well check out Dr. Rina Marie and all those places. Definitely go to the show notes, click the link and download those valuable resources. We really can't get enough information about how to eat properly for perimenopause, menopause, how to balance our hormones. It really is, if you've heard me talk, hormones are the foundation of a woman's health. So if you don't get that right, you won't get anything else. Right. So get that right. For sure. Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Rita Marie,
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
And thank you for joining us for another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kieran. Hopefully you've learned something today that you will put into action to start moving your hormones into a balanced direction. I look forward to hearing from you on social media about exactly what you've done and the results that you've gotten. I hope you have a wonderful week. Until then, peace, love, and hormones, y'all.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Thank you so much for listening. I know that incredible vitality occurs for women over 40 when we learn to speak hormone and balance these vital regulators to create the health and the life that we deserve. If you're enjoying this podcast, I'd love it if you'd give me a review and subscribe. It really does help this podcast out so much. You can visit the hormone prescription.com where we have some free gifts for you, and you can sign up to have a hormone evaluation with me on the podcast to gain clarity into your personal situation. Until next time, remember, take small steps each day to balance your hormones and watch the wonderful changes in your health that begin to unfold for you. Talk to you soon.
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Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
ALIGNED as F*ck: Transforming Your Inner Assholes (like Anxiety) into Allies
Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
Tuesday Jun 27, 2023
Join us for this empowering episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, where we dive deep into the power of transforming anxiety into a powerful ally in our lives with clinical professional counselor, Lynn Dutrow. Discover how Lynn's unique perspective and practical strategies can help midlife women turn their inner struggles into incredible strengths.
Guest Details
Name: Lynn Dutrow
Credentials: Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor (LCPC), Author, and Compassionate AssKicker
Background: Psychology, Education, Coaching, and Motorcycle Sales (a story for another day)
Lynn specializes in supporting Responsible Rebels (aka Brave Small Business Owners, Empathic Entrepreneurs, and Purpose-Fueled Professionals) in enjoying their success with less stress. She's also the author of the highly sought-after book, *ALIGNED as F*ck: Transforming Your Inner Assholes (like Anxiety) into Allies.*
In this heart-to-heart conversation, we explore Lynn's personal journey dealing with anxiety, her unique approach to overcoming mental barriers, and how she now helps others find peace and purpose in their lives.
Key Takeaways and Lessons
- The importance of acknowledging and confronting our anxieties and inner struggles
- Practical tips and strategies for transforming anxiety into a powerful ally
- How women in midlife can harness their anxiety for personal and professional growth
- The role hormones may play in our anxiety levels and response
- Techniques that promote self-awareness, acceptance, and healing
If you're a midlife woman who's ready to turn anxiety into a source of empowerment and growth, this episode is not to be missed! Tune in to The Hormone Prescription Podcast and get inspired by Lynn's relatable stories, powerful insights, and practical tools to embrace your anxiety and unleash your potential.
Remember, when you're ALIGNED as F*ck, you are unstoppable!
Speaker 1 (00:00):
“The greatest discovery of all time is that a person can change their future by merely changing their attitude.” Oprah Winfrey, stay tuned. Cause Lynn Dutrow is gonna teach you how to get aligned as f you and how to transform your inner anxiety into allies.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones in our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself Again. As an ob-gyn, I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue, now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Hi everybody. Thank you so much for joining me for another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Today we're gonna dive into anxiety again because it is such an important topic for women over 40. There are physical problems including hormonal imbalances, like hormonal poverty that can contribute to anxiety, but there are also mental thought processes that we can have habitually that can cause us to spiral into anxiety. And it makes it very difficult for us to actually achieve what we want to in life, like getting our health straight or doing the things we want with our career or relationships when we're stuck in anxiety. Cuz it's really a colossal waste of energy. As someone who suffered with anxiety in the past myself and sometimes also in the present, it's something that I think can't be talked about enough. More women than not suffer with this.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Also men. So maybe you'll learn something in the episode today that will really help shed some light. My guest today is a licensed clinical professional counselor and she has a lot of experience in that area. She switched over to coaching. She's gonna tell you why and what the benefits of having a coach are over having a traditional therapist, particularly when it comes to anxiety. She's really action-oriented and we're gonna talk about that quote from Oprah. She's got a couple other great ones from Socrates and Heric Colitis that really get to the crux of what anxiety is all about it. You really have some unique and powerful tools that you can start using today to transform that ruminative thought process that's going on in your brain that really keeps you from living life fully and achieving what's possible for you. So I'll tell you a little bit about her and then we'll get started.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Lynn Dutrow is a licensed clinical professional counselor. She's an author and compassionate ask kicker with a background in psychology, education, coaching and motorcycle sales, and that's a story for another day. She specializes in supporting the responsible rebels in enjoying their success with less stress. The responsible rebels are brave, smart business owners, empathic entrepreneurs and purpose fueled professionals, people just like you. She is the author of Aligned as. And I will say this is an explicit episode because Lynn speaks, frankly, she curses. So we've marked the episode as such, so if cursing bothers you, we don't have too much, but if it bothers you, have this episode or not play it when there are. She's the author of Aligned As, transforming Your Inner, like Anxiety Into Allies. Please help me welcome Lynn Dutrow to the show.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Thank you. I'm honored to be here. I'm looking forward to our conversation. So
Speaker 1 (04:08):
One of the first questions I have for you is you're a licensed clinical professional counselor, but now you predominantly do coaching and help people get aligned as we're gonna talk about that. But how did you make the transformation? What made you decide to make the transformation from clinical counseling to coaching?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So there's, there's a few things that factored into that. One of them simply being, I like to tell people what to do more than, than just the whole tradition, like how does that make you feel? And the also the ability to go beyond what felt like constraints of a typical or traditional counseling. So I do combine, I I really combine both of them. I tell people that I kind of came out of the womb being a good listener and so it's just a natural progression to work in the helping field, but it just has felt more and more like the coaching aspect of it, being able to be a partner with people and not just say, okay, like going back into the healing part, I'm more action oriented. So it's like, okay, this is going on now how do we get you to where things can be easier in how you're doing things?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So rather than spending all the time in going back and, and looking at like, where did all of this come from? It's okay, what's going on now and how can we take action steps to get you to be living the life that you really wanna be living? So that's the shortest version that I have.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think it's an important topic for people like you to discuss because I think the average person is pretty confused right about now because there's so many different degrees that people can have. They can have a social work degree, they can have a marital and family counseling degree, they can have a be a clinical psychologist, they can have a PhD, they can have a master's, PhD, master's, all the different credentials. And there are so many different types of coaches out there and it's not regulated. So there's no standardization and I think people are confused. But one thing I think women are not confused about is that anxiety is a problem for the majority of us.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Absolutely. We all have it in one form, form
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Another. Why, why do we, why do we all have anxiety? Lynn, please tell us why.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Because anxiety's actually part of our survival system. It's there for a reason. It has just been given way too much power and we don't live in the same world where we have to be concerned about the Sabre twos tiger creeping up on us and having our survival system keep us alive. But that same survival system still there. And so the more comfortable we make our lives, the more that survival system and anxiety in particular over does its job. It's making things that aren't actually a threat to our survival, into things to react to. And there's so many things now that I was just talking to someone this morning about how we've made being a woman, being a mother, being a wife, all of those things into like an Olympic sport. And then so then you get all of the, your, your perfectionist gets involved in all of that and you know, we just keep trying to achieve and strive and do all of these things. And so anxiety's there all along the way going, oh, you're not doing it right, you're not doing it right. And ooh, let's panic about this even though there's nothing to panic about. So it's there. And the way that I work with clients is to have to acknowledge and accept it first, and then we're gonna work on changing your relationship to it so that, as I say, you teach it better social skills, get it to actually be working for you instead of against you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well that sounds great and hopefully we can do that today. Give some people an idea of how they can do that. But I just, before we move on to that topic, why have we made our lives into Olympic sport? Why are we such perfectionist? Why do we have to be the best mom, the best wife, the best worker, the best business, the best everything? Where in the world did this come from that now all of a sudden we have to be the best? I don't think that it used to be that way. So what happened? I
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Don't think it used to be that way either. I think that there are a few things that have contributed. Technology is one of them because we can now see what people are doing all over the world for 24, you know, 24 hours a day, seven, seven days a week. And we didn't used to be able to do that. I mean, you know, just as far back as, you know, my parents' generation, they didn't have a television. They could tell what people were doing, you know, from radio or reading, you know, or those sorts of things, but they just got about their day. They went and did whatever they needed to do. And I don't think people were comparing themselves in the way they are now. And so that's, I think a big contributing factor is that, you know, any moment of the day you can pick up your little rectangle that we, you carry around with you and you can jump on social media or anything else and suddenly there's somebody to compare.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think we also have made the pursuit of happiness, the pursuit of success in however that has gotten defined, which is to be the best at rather than, and and there's also this avoidance of failure, you know, so if you're walking around avoiding failure, then you've got, the only other option is success because we are very wired to this all or nothing, especially if we have a tendency towards, so this all or nothing, it's like, well, you know, we can't fail so we must succeed. And then there's really nothing in the middle and we're just all over focused on it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah. I call it paranoia,
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think so. I love them. You're on the present. That's hilarious. Yeah. So the, so, so my take on this is, yes, mindfulness can be helpful, but, but more from the perspective of learning how to think about what you wanna think about when you want to think about it, and to what you said, I think how anxiety is future oriented, how it impacts the present is that you are feeling like in this moment, I have to make a decision that feels like it's going to impact, you know, the next minute, the next hour, the next day, the next week. And so it feels like all this pressure in the moment. And what you can do with that is say, I can make this decision right now, and if in a minute or an hour or a day or a week from now I realize that the decision I made right here isn't working for me, then I can make another decision. And that's the part that gets us worked up is the, that I'm gonna make a decision now that's gonna dis like completely that I can't change it, you know, this is it, I'm signing up for whatever, and it's staying in the moment to, to trust that I'm gonna make the best decision I can right now. And then if in the future that's not working out in that moment in the future, I can make a different decision.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay. That makes sense. So that's, yes, that's more staying in the present. So what do you think are the most important besides that? Which sounds pretty important. What else is very important for every woman listening to understand about the anxiety that she's got? She's got anxiety about the work she's doing in the world. Maybe she's a business owner, maybe she worked for somebody else, she's anxious. Am I doing enough? Am I good enough? She's worrying about her kids. Is she present enough? Or maybe other family members, spouses, partners, she's afraid she's gonna lose things. You know, there's a a lot big fear we've had in the past couple years. People afraid of losing their health or losing family members or friends to health problems, concerns about money problems. So what is important for all women to, to understand about anxiety?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Well, I think one of the biggest things is to understand anxiety's role. And so anxiety is meant to do basically two things. It can be a force of good, which is when it's giving you a signal. And I would say in a lot of the cases that you just mentioned, anxiety is attempting to give a signal that you're doing too much, you're expecting too much of yourself. Well, that's probably the biggest one. They, they're expecting too much because too often I think women in particular, especially mothers or well, or, or people at work, so a woman who has a high pressure career, they're taking on too much responsibility. It's like we get a dopamine hit for being competent. We get a dopamine hit, you know, for for being the, the competent, the successful one in the room. So what happens is we feel like we have to do everything, but to be a really good leader, whether that's at work or you have to figure out how to, to delegate, how to let other people, you know, my daughter goes to a Montessori school and one of my favorite Maria Montessori quotes is, you know, basic is something along the lines of don't do for others what they can do for themselves.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And that's been challenging. But when I tell people that my daughter has been doing her own laundry since she was five, you know, the, the jaws drop that, wait a minute, you know, I, I don't have to do everything for my children or my spouse or I don't have to do everything. I mean, I've worked with, you know, folks VP and higher level in companies and when we really break it down, we realize they're doing too much of what their employees, their subordinates are supposed to be doing because there's such a fear that it's not gonna be done right. Right. So it's teasing through a lot of these thoughts that we have of things having to be done a certain way or done Right. And again, that compare paranoia or compare para paranoia. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Is it, is it telling me something that's actually important and actionable that I can do something different? Or on the other hand, because because anxiety is not always showing up the same way, sometimes anxiety is showing up as noise, right? So that's when it's waking you up at 3:00 AM you know, worrying about something that you have no control over what to do about it in that moment. So the first thing is to distinguish, is my anxiety behaving today and actually giving me a signal about something that would be important for me to take action on, look at differently change? Or is it just being an and giving me noise to, to wind me up? You know, I tell, I tell clients that anxiety's kind of like that, like the neighbor or your cousin or somebody that you had to hang out with. Like you, you weren't, you didn't have a choice.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Like you had to hang out with them at least some of the time, and you got along okay when it was just the two of you. But if you bring anybody else in, they started acting up and trying to keep your attention. Anxiety's kind of like that. It's like, Hey, wait a minute, I want your attention. So if you start focusing on something else, like I'm gonna draw you back and say, Hey, the only place I can keep you safe is right here. So I'm gonna keep you frozen. I'm gonna keep you stuck. I'm gonna keep you worrying, I'm gonna keep you on the, the hamster wheel, whatever it is. And so learning how anxiety works and how it plays, you know, the what if game and all of those things, that's a, a really great start to changing your relationship with all of those thoughts and feelings that overwhelm you. And
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So I try to tie everything into hormones, which includes the, the nervous system, the autonomic nervous system, sympathetic, parasympathetic. Why do we even have the ability to be anxious? What biologic capability or survival advantage does it confer on us
Speaker 3 (18:14):
To survive, to be alert, to notice, you know, my clients very often, they're the ones that pick up on the subtle things in their environment. They're the ones that, you know, you get something written by them, the the grammar is correct and all of that stuff. They're the ones who are constantly looking for things out of the ordinary because that's how we survived. And I, the a psychiatrist friend of mine, and I, I don't think she probably just repeated it, but it was, you know, basically we all evolved from the anxious people, from the people who were on alert because the people who relaxed dancing around the fire got eaten. Right. So I got it.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right. So we are predisposed to survive, which means we are always on the lookout for things that might be a threat. And that's what I was talking about though, our lives on some level have gotten so comfortable that our survival system isn't quite sure what to do. It still wants to do its job. So it tends then to pick things that if we really stand back and look at them, they're not, nobody's gonna die. Right. But our body is overreacting as if that could be a possibility. So that's where, you know, becoming aware of what is going on and, and why your sympathetic nervous system gets so easily triggered. And I do agree that this can, and I often get people who say, well, I never thought of myself as anxious before. And then I, I look at their age and they're over 40, especially women, and it's like, okay, now what role is either the, maybe you weren't aware before because this is just how you functioned, but it all has to be related and I'm not the medical person, but you know, it all has to be related.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Because if you are wearing out, you know, if your sympathetic nervous systems on all the time, then you're wearing out your adrenals or you know, the cortisol, all of those things that are then gonna just make all of this worse. So when I have clients, that's what I work on, like a multi-level, is we begin the process of what I call, like the education, just understanding how all of this works. And I think one of my gifts is I take what I call psychobabble and I break it down into real language that people can understand. So like that's with my, with the book that I wrote, you know, that's the comment I get. Wow. It's like, I like it sounds like I'm having a conversation with you and this makes sense to me. And then as we're doing that, then we start digging into some of the other things like what might be going on with clients' hormones, what might be going on with their health, what are they eating, what are their sleep habits look like? And oftentimes I think, I know for myself, when I looked at my hormones, that made a large difference in how my anxiety showed up, the intensity of it. So it definitely got better when as I began to look at my diet and, and how to change, you know, my hormones, my metabolism, all of that. So that is something that mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, absolutely. And that's a part of my story that I've shared on the podcast many times. Extreme anxiety on many medications for it. And then when I got my hormones straight and got my gut straight, I didn't need any medications. Right? So if that's you and you're suffering with anxiety, that is the number one thing you want to do. But then beyond that, I do find that I have some thought patterns that tend to lead to anxiety like a lot of people. And I think a lot of the anxiety centers around this quote that you shared with me from otitis, there is nothing permanent except change. We don't like change, Lynn.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No, we don't. We don't. But the one thing that's inevitable is change.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Life is just a series of changes.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yes. That is something that I work with clients is like to increase their tolerance for discomfort. And I think that's another, you know, as I'm thinking about it, that's another thing that plays into why things are worse now. Because every marketer out there, every company that has hired someone to do their marketing has hired someone who knows that the best way to get us to buy someone buy something is to appeal to our fear and anxiety. Our fear and anxiety. That we're not good enough, that we're not living up to something that, and, and that we don't have to tolerate discomfort at all. You know, there's a pill, there's a blanket, there's a something, there's food, there's something that you can use to change how you feel. What I find is when my clients begin this process of not, their goal isn't to be comfortable and to be certain all the time, because that's what anxiety tells you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You have to be comfortable, you have to be certain, well those are illusions. We love them. We love the idea of being able to be certain, to make sure, like if you could sit in my shoes
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We learn a lot about ourselves, about what we're here to do. I think it was Glenn and Doyle talks about if you're looking to figure out what your purpose is, figure out what makes you cry. You know? And I love that allowing ourselves to get past what we think society is telling us we should be doing our obligations mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah. You know, I love that you're going down this, this line of discussion about this topic. You know, what you're saying speaks to me of, we, we try to make decisions with our heads, right? What's the logical choice? What would a smart person do? And I've recently been learning more and more about something called human design, which I'm not sure if you're familiar with it. See you shaking your head Yes. And it's basically told me that in your brain is not designed to make decisions and nobody's brain is, and I actually am, have an emotional authority. So my emotions are, and other people have a splenic authority or they might have a sacral authority or something like this. No, no. Humans are supposed to be making decisions with our brain and yet that's where we make most decisions. And I love what you shared about Glennon Doyle.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I love her writing and what you shared about what makes you cry. I talked to so many women midlife who are really confused about their purpose and their path and what would bring them joy and they don't even know what they want. So can you talk maybe about how you help people get in touch with that heart-centered, maybe emotional or splenic or whatever the, your authority is that can help guide you to what would be most meaningful. So you can take those calculated risks, but I think that, you know, if you don't go out on the branch on the limb, you can't get the fruit. So you kind of gotta go out there. So how do you help people navigate that?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Well, it starts with just that education of how these inner parts of you work and then getting in touch with, well, what, you know, think, you know, it, it's different for different people. Sometimes people are able to get in touch with it when they think back to what they love to do as a child back before all of the expectations were piled on them. What do they find? Like, you know, if you have even five minutes to yourself, what, what do you gravitate to? What do you, what do you like to do? And, and also help them to, because again, I work with so many clients that have the all or nothing thinking they get, somebody gave me feedback in the book where it was like, I, you know, I don't, I don't wanna do any more of this work because it's gonna mean that I'm gonna have to divorce my husband
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It's right. It's the all or nothing. And so I, I help guide them all on the path that it's, it's not that you have to take one huge step, let's just talk about 1% incremental change. Like looking at what's one little thing that you can do here? And also maybe you won't end up doing the thing that you're passionate about for a career. Like you don't have to give up your job today and go do something that, that you feel passionate about, but maybe you could start volunteering with something that you feel passionate about something. So just walking them through the, getting past their inner to even have a conversation about that things could be different than the way that they are right now. And to just look at little things, tweak a little bit here, tweak a little bit there. I think one of the big conversations that I have with clients is not to set goals.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You can set intentions, you can have an idea of where you wanna go, but we get too caught up in the failure that happens between, you know, so think, think like with weight loss, it's like, okay, well I wanna lose, I think you said you lost over a hundred pounds. I mean that's big. But you had to, instead of focusing on the losing the a hundred pounds, my guess is you focus on the the things that you could be successful at every day until you got there. And that's what people miss. It's, it's the, oh, I'm gonna set this goal and I don't map out how I'm gonna get there. And so every day I wake up and I feel like I'm a failure cuz I'm not at my goal yet. So how do we break it down into having those successes every day? And so with finding your purpose, it's, let's just break this down and start looking at, you know, what makes, what makes you cry, what ma what gives you makes your heart, you know, feel full, you know, those sorts of things. And then what, how can you incorporate a little bit more of that each day? What are you doing that you can take off your plate? You know, the little thing. So that's how we get started with that. Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And it reminds me of this other quote you shared from Socrates. The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new. So when I lost all that weight, I focused on, I'm building health. Yeah. I wasn't even focused on the weight loss, I just was doing the things I needed to do to address the underlying causes, the hormonal imbalances, the toxicities, the gut dysfunction. And then the weight just started coming off. So I wasn't even focused.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Right, exactly. That's exactly it is the changing the way that we focus it isn't, it wasn't ever about the weight loss. It was about making the healthy choices to have a better life. And then you get the, the secondary gain if you will. Oh well look when I did that, when that's what I focused on. So yeah, helping to, to people to see that if you focus too much on a goal that without those steps and without knowing what the deeper meaning behind it is. So that's what you did. And there's where your success,
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Right. And I'm wondering what you think stops most of us for going for what we actually want. So I think there are different categories of women at midlife. Some of us really don't know what we want. We haven't been asked, I've talked to some women and I say, well what is it you really want for your life? And they say, I don't even know anymore. So some of us don't know we have to go through a rediscovery process, but there's some of us who know, but we don't wanna say the thing, we're up free to say the thing cause we're afraid that someone will shame us for it. Or who do you think you are? And you talked about imposter syndrome and then our attitude oftentimes whatever situation we're in at midlife regarding what we truly want in life. And maybe it's great help that we want, maybe we wanna lose a hundred pounds, but we won't even admit it cuz we don't think we can have. It has to do with our attitude. And like you said, Oprah Winfrey shared the greatest discovery of all time is that a person can change their future by merely changing their attitude. And so many of us have this attitude of silence. We don't, it doesn't even mean that anyone else has silenced us. We've silenced ourselves. We don't say the thing that we need to say or want to say. We don't do the thing, we won't admit the thing. So help us here, Lynn. Yeah,
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well it's, it goes back to the same thing. It's not safe to do those things. We, I think especially, you know, our generation, I am really curious whether these younger generations, I guess you would call it like the millennials and the Gen Zs, are they gonna have the same trouble when they get to be our age? Because they seem to be able to identify what they want a little bit more, or at least verbalize it. Now whether their experiences will show them, you know, this idea that they can't have it or not, I don't know. But I know like, you know, I'm a child of the eighties and nobody ever asked us what we wanted. So we, we don't know how to even answer that question. And I think though it's tied to safety, what feels safe. And so if you've ever had, and all it takes is one, all it takes is one situation where you spoke up, you said what you wanted and somebody either said, no, you can't have it, circumstances don't allow it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Or someone judged you like you did get it and you're feeling really good about it. And someone says, this happened to me like I got a pretty good job, a pretty high paying job out of graduate school. And I found out through the grapevine that somebody that I knew basically said I didn't deserve it. I didn't deserve to at my age to have gotten that job. Now that critical voice is in my head. And so I'm a little more cautious because if you think back to, and this wasn't really in the, in the big picture of things, this wasn't really that long ago. You know, there was a time when if you didn't stay in the favor of the tribe, you couldn't survive because that point in time to try to be a loner didn't really work. And so I think we've carried that forward.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
And so if we don't feel safe to ask for what we want or even get what we, what we think that we want because other members of the tribe are gonna be jealous and judge us, or we're not even just jealous that they have concerns about what's going on in your life and they're gonna say, Ooh, you know, don't take that risk. It doesn't take much for us to say, okay, well then, then I don't feel safe taking this risk or ta or asking for what I want. Mm-Hmm
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay. And then I do wanna ask you before I wanna give Emry on some practical tips, they can start using poor anxiety that they're having. So we'll get to that. But the name of your book is Aligned as, transforming Your Inner, like Anxiety Into Allies. And I'm wondering if you can talk about that title, what does that mean, aligned as, what are your inner? So can you talk a little bit about that and then we'll also talk about some things people can do to get started with their anxiety.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Sure. So my inner didn't want me to write that book. And so they were coming up with all kinds of obstacles for me. And so aligned was a word that really resonated with me that by getting, you know, getting them in alignment with what I wanted to do was important. So I used the letters of aligned to come up with the concept for each chapter. So there's a chapter A, a chapter L, you know, so on and under each one I talk about different concepts related to that letter. So that's how the whole thing started and it just kind of took off. So the book is really helping you to step by step look at, okay, what are, what's important to understand about how these, what I call inner, the ones who you know, your anxiety, your doubt, the inner critic, the perfectionist, all of that, how they have gotten in charge and how to demote them and teach 'em better social skills.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
So the first chapter talks about just acknowledging that they're there, accepting that they're there. And then the big one, the big step at that point is to anthropomorphize them. And I had to practice saying that word a lot. It does not really, you know, trip off your tongue, but it's giving human characteristics to a non-human form. And so I have found that clients have been very, once they get what they get how to do it, they've been very successful. And because it allows you to basically have a conversation with yourself and those parts of yourself that you're not, that you're scared of, that you're not getting along with that trip you up that sabotage you and to then recognize how to work with them differently. That's where I start people and then I have them look at their language and how to lean into discomfort, how to take a leap and be a leader, find their inner c e o and get these inner lined up and working for you rather than against you.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
And the book has been so well received that I actually am working on a companion workbook. So in the book I give an action step per chapter. So there's like seven, there might be some bonuses in there, but the workbook is actually a action step for every single concept. So there's like 23 or 24 concepts that I cover in the book that the workbook's gonna actually give you more examples as well as an action step for each one. So I'm doing my best to break it down as much as I can for people to really take the time to figure out how they can do this differently and have a, have a better result for themself.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Okay. So your inner are all the things that stop you from being who you wanna be, doing what you wanna do in life, like anxiety, your inner critic, things like that. Mm-Hmm
Speaker 3 (37:55):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay. I like it
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I, I think those would be the thing is just accept that yeah, this does happen. There's nothing, there's really nothing wrong with you. This is your body giving you a signal that it's time to listen to these voices, but listen to them with a discerning ear to see whether some of what they're trying to say to you are things that are important to address. Because again, it can lead you to saying, okay, like all the things that I've been trying to do for my health, which you know, all of the outdated stuff of eat less, you know, exercise more, all of that, that it's time to find a better path. You know, have your hormones tested, work with somebody who can help you get some relief there so that you can put the rest of the work into action and actually be getting closer to the life that you would like to have without all of your inner trying to say no, you can't have it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Okay. So get your hormones tested for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Practicing self-compassion. We didn't really talk about that before, but I think, yeah, in this age of all this paranoia and comparisonitis is learning to have self-compassion. I, you know, I talk about language and too often my clients are talking to themselves in a way they would never talk to, you know, a child or their best friend or, or anybody for that matter. And so really starting to know, you know, how you're talking to yourself and how we can be compassionate to others, but we have to learn how to be compassionate to ourselves as well. And then that goes in line, if you're being self-compassionate, then you are finding others because that's one thing too, especially for women. You don't have to do this alone. There are people out there and, and to go back to do you need a therapist? Do you need a coach?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
You know where to start. It's about the relationship. So start noticing who you resonate with and not just who you feel like is gonna tell you what to do, but who feels like somebody that you could work with that would be a partner to you. And not just somebody who seems more powerful or knowledgeable. Just because you know people have a lot of letters after their name doesn't mean that they would be a good fit for you. So that's part of, I think the process as well is finding mm-hmm
Speaker 1 (40:40):
You do not. There is lots of support and I'm so glad that you've written the book that you've written, that you're working on the workbook that you transitioned to coaching. I think that therapy is wonderful. It's helped me tremendously. And I also think that coaching can be extremely powerful. I've had coach coaching as well, and it can be very action oriented and help you to take actions contrary to what you've been getting because if you keep taking the same actions, you're gonna get the same outcome. Absolutely. So trying something different is key. Yeah. So thank you so much for coming on the show, Lynne, and sharing your insights about anxiety and the inner
Speaker 3 (41:33):
No. Just yeah, keep your eye out if you're, if this interests you at all, like I said, there's the book, there's a workbook you can get on my website and get a taste of the book. I think it's chapter three is available for my website. And I just really appreciate this conversation. It's been great. I hope it was helpful.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yes, thank you so much. And thank you all for listening to another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kieran. Hopefully you've learned something today that will inspire you to take action and do something different and really figure out what it is you want for your life and go for it. Don't just dream about it. I always say that the dream chooses the dreamer. You didn't choose the dream, it chose you. And that your dreams as humanity calling forth from you, those gifts that only you have, that only you can deliver. So what are those gifts and what are you gonna do to move towards delivering them today? Thanks so much for joining me. I'll see you next week. Until then, peace,
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Love, and hormones, y'all. Thank you so much for listening. I know that incredible vitality occurs for women over 40 when we learn to speak hormone and balance these vital regulators to create the health and the life that we deserve. If you're enjoying this podcast, I'd love it if you'd give me a review and subscribe. It really does help this podcast out so much. You can visit the hormone prescription.com where we have some free gifts for you, and you can sign up to have a hormone evaluation with me on the podcast to gain clarity into your personal situation. Until next time, remember, take small steps each day to balance your hormones and watch the wonderful changes in your health that begin to unfold for you. Talk to you soon.
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Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Your Healthiest Healthy: 8 Easy Ways to Take Control
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Welcome to The Hormone Prescription Podcast, where we bring you inspiring stories and expert insights to help you elevate your health and wellness. Today, we're excited to have the energetic and passionate Emmy-winning TV host, Samantha Harris, join us to talk about her incredible journey to health and wellness.
Her story begins with a shocking breast cancer diagnosis at the age of 40, which led her to rise above the challenge and become a breast cancer "thriver." Samantha channeled her energy into becoming a Certified Health Coach, trainer, and author of the bestselling book "YOUR HEALTHIEST HEALTHY: 8 Easy Ways to Take Control, Help Prevent and Fight Cancer, and Live a Longer, Cleaner, Happier Life."
In this episode, you'll discover:
- How Samantha's life took an unexpected turn with her breast cancer diagnosis
- The ways in which she fought and thrived despite the challenge presented by this life-changing event
- The inspiration behind her bestselling book, "YOUR HEALTHIEST HEALTHY: 8 Easy Ways to Take Control"
- Samantha's perspective on health and wellness as a Certified Health Coach and trainer
- The importance of taking control of your health and living your healthiest, happiest life
If you're inspired by Samantha's story and want to learn more, subscribe to The Hormone Prescription Podcast for more uplifting stories and informative interviews.
Remember to stay healthy, stay inspired, and keep on listening!
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Keep doing what you're doing and you will keep getting what you're getting. Samantha Harris, stay tuned for amazing story of healing from breast cancer and beyond to your healthiest healthy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones and our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself Again. As an ob gyn, I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue, now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much for joining me today. You're gonna love my guest today. She has an amazing story of healing from breast cancer and beyond, to becoming her healthiest healthy, and now that's what she's gonna help you do is become your healthiest healthy. In this episode, she is passionate about health and healing, but more than that, vitality and living a full and meaningful life. So she's gonna teach you all about that. She's very inspiring and she has some amazing wisdom to share about detecting breast cancer, trusting yourself and so many other things. It's just too much for me to tell you. You're gonna love this episode and we're gonna dive into the teaser that I shared with you. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting, which is kind of a motto that she lives by.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And she's gonna talk about how being kind to herself and really slowing down has been vital to becoming her healthiest, healthy, and might be a key to yours and so much more. So let me tell you a little bit about Samantha and then we'll get started. She's an Emmy winning TV host and she may be best known for her eight seasons as the host of Dancing With the Stars and Years as host of host, such as Entertainment Tonight and Extra from hosting every major Hollywood award show red carpet to starring on Broadway in the musical Chicago. She has been a fixture in the entertainment world. She's currently the host of the World play Game show, tug of Words on Game Show Network. Please help me welcome Samantha Harris to the show. Dr. Kier, I love what you do and how you really help. You know, as a, as a breast cancer survivor who's had to deal with a lot of hormonal issues because I had a hormone positive breast cancer, I am grateful for all the information that you put out there for anyone, whether they've had a deal with a diagnosis or not.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So thank you for that. Oh, it's my pleasure. It's my passion. It's what I love doing. You know, when I discovered a root cause resolution way to heal my body and lose a hundred pounds and get off all the medications, I said that I would commit my life to teaching other women about this. And so that's why we're here. And I know that you have an amazing story about having estrogen. Was it estrogen receptor positive breast cancer? Oh yeah, pro progesterone, both. And, and so breast cancer is the thing that scares women more than anything. We're all petrified about getting breast cancer, I guess, because so many of us will get it in our lifetimes. It's not common to have your life shortened by it anymore because we have such advances in treatment. But it is possible. My maternal grandmother actually passed away at a very young age due to breast cancer.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So I'm wondering if you could share your journey with everyone. Absolutely. And I think that it is so important to be able to let women know that we have so much more power and control than we may think. So as I've been a national ambassador for Susan g Koman, probably because of all my time hosting, dancing with the Stars in Entertainment Tonight and all of those and having a, a great national platform for that, but since my breast cancer diagnosis. And so I learned that one in eight women will receive a breast cancer diagnosis over the course of her lifetime, which a alone was shocking, but to me the most shocking part of it was that only five to 10% of those breast cancers are actually hereditary. And when I found out, because I had a, a grandmother who had breast cancer and now she was postmenopausal, so they don't connect premenopausal like mine to hers.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
She lived to 95, thank goodness my dad had colon cancer died at age 50, but he also had Crohn's disease before that. And there are, there is a breast colon hereditary connection. We looked at that, no connection there. So I had no, and I've done 180 genetic tests that are currently available for breast cancer. None of them detected it. So I'm in that 80 or 95, you know, to to 90, 95% of people who don't have a genetic predisposition. Right. And I'm sure there's probably, sure you could throw up a random number like 5% that are just, gosh, who knows what the heck it is. It's some sort of fluke. But, so let's say now that we're at like a good 85 to 90% of breast cancers being not genetic, not being able to be chalked up to some crazy other thing happening in their body.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And we know the power of epigenetics, right? How our habits and lifestyle choices and our environment that we are living in impact our risk of disease in this case. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And I kept, took my power back, I was back in the saddle, I took the reins and I started to make slow but systematic changes in my life. Yeah, I love what you said and how you outline that 90 to 95% of what goes into causing breast cancer is under your control. And, but we're really taught that we're powerless, that we're at the whim or victimization of some nebulous kind of cancer causing God. But the truth is, it's what how we're living your lives, right? Which is what you teach people about in your programs. It's what we're putting in our mouths, what we're putting in our bodies, what we're putting on our hair, what we're not getting rid of, right? What we're not pooping out, what we're not peeing out. Yes. All of these disruptors. So yeah, share a little bit about your journey. I did see, you know, on your website you have some very personal pictures of you going through some very specific cancer treatments.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
If you would love to talk about that. I'm sure women would love to hear about how you survived that very difficult time, what it was like for you. And then coming out of that, what was it like the, the ultimate healing that you did after they got rid of the cancer? Well, I think sharing my journey is really important to me. And, and this is why we have to be our own best health advocates. We need to know our bodies better than anyone else, including the person in the lab coat with all respect to those of you who are in the profession of medicine. And then goodness you are. But we need to know our bodies better than the doctor we're walking into the room with. And that means noticing small changes and not bearing your head in the sand when you find them. So I had a clear M mammogram.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I was about to turn 40, this is in 2014 actually, 2013. And the results came back clear. It's exactly what I had anticipated because I was the healthy one among my friends and family. I worked out every day I ate my cheese list pizzas and my snack well cookies that were low fat cuz god forbid we eat any fat
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Right? And so here I am, I'm thinking I'm so healthy and I'm eating copious amounts of animal protein. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, whether it was yogurt or eggs for breakfast and Turkey or chicken or fish or something for lunch and dinner every single day of the week. And I grew up in Minnesota eating every part of the cow. There was so a lot of, a lot of animal in my life. And then here I was, you know, blindsided by this breast cancer diagnosis, which I didn't know because I had a clear mammogram. 11 days later I found a lump changing after a workout, again, knowing your body. And you know, you know, you take off that really tight constricting sports bra and you circle 'em to the left, you circle 'em to the right, you know, you gotta get them moving again. And there I was circling and I went, oh well that's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
What is, what's that lump? I, that's definitely not been there before. But I just had a clear mammogram 11 days before that still didn't stick my head in the sand, didn't realize I needed to be my best health advocate. But I still called the ob. G Y n had me come in the next day, felt around, said it's nothing you, you're returning 40, it's probably glandular. This is what 40 year old breast looked like. Sent me on my way. Said it was nothing a month later, still there, but of course not breast cancer. So went to see my internist, same thing, quick clinical exam, it's nothing sent me on my way. And then it was the holidays and by the time I came up for air, it was about four months after I found that lump and it was still there. And I finally listened to my, now my inner voice screaming at me saying go to someone who looks at breasts every day and that only that the only expert who does is a breast oncologist.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So I found myself at a cancer center thinking this is ridiculous. I don't have cancer, why am I here? And she did two ne two ultrasounds, a needle biopsy, a subsequent M r i, after those appointments, not one test detected the cancer. And yet she said, you're not crazy though. There's something there. So I'm going to advise. We do a lumpectomy. And we took it out, woke up from that surgery still saying no cancer. Went back a week later, told my husband, you don't need to come with me. It's not cancer. Go literally. I told him, go golf, it's a gorgeous day. Don't waste it in a dark, you know, office in the bottom of basement of a hospital with me. And then I was alone as the words you have ductal carcinoma and site do. And I'm trying to unravel what the heck that means.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But I just heard the word carcinoma and I knew that meant cancer and lots of diagrams and dots and things she was drawing. And I, all of a sudden the adrenaline and the anxiety and the overwhelm and the scared feelings and every emotion you can imagine hearing you have cancer. My daughters were, our daughters were three and six at the time. I lost my dad when he was 50 and here I was at 40 and I thought like hell, I'm not gonna be there for my kids. And that's when my cancer journey began. And that was, that was 40. Wow. Turning 40 is an event for all of us, but certainly sounds like it was an extreme sport almost for you or an extreme life event. And so then what type of treatment did you undergo for that? So the, this is when you know a lot of personal choice comes into effect as well as many opinions.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So again, taking your health into your hands and be your own best healthcare advocate. Don't take doctor number one's information as the only, you know the word of God. So literally within the span of a week I saw two more surgical oncologists. So three opinions. I took the lab results to a separate pathologist at a different university hospital just to make sure because we were all basing, you know, it on one lab reading. So we made sure that they agreed that it was actually this particular cancer. Mm-Hmm
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But for some reason my, my inner voice was saying I needed to take a sample that turned out to be invasive breast cancer. Oh my gosh. So in that moment, my breast cancer journey went from breast cancer light to breast cancer. Serious. And now it was not, you're done now cuz you had the lumpectomy, but it's okay, what's next? So my options were another lumpectomy to make sure we had clear margins and then six weeks of radiation every day or mm-hmm. A single or double mastectomy with or without reconstruction. I opted for the double with reconstruction. I saw multiple, I saw two different radiation oncologists to get their opinions. I saw, I have a second medical oncologist. So I had two opinions about chemo and treatment going forward in the end. And you guys, anyone who is out there listening and maybe newly diagnosed or one what to do, please feel free to always DM me and ask me questions.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I respond to every single woman who is worried about a cancer diagnosis or is diagnosed and it is Samantha Harris tv, like television on Instagram and, and Facebook, Samantha Harris tv. But then I can explain why I chose not to do the chemo and not to do the radiation. Mm-Hmm
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So if there is anybody listening and you've got every sin cancer diagnosis, I love what you said about getting second opinions, even third opinions, really you do have to be the ceo, get all the information and then make a wise choice for yourself. So I do wanna have that disclaimer that what you necessarily did might not be right for someone listening. So get your healthcare providers and consult and yes, definitely reach out on social media if you do have questions, because I think the more people you can talk to about what's going on with you personally, the better you are. But no one person is the guru for you. You are the expert on your body and your health. I love how you really demonstrated that Samantha, by, even though you had a negative mammogram, 11 days later you felt a lump and you didn't just discount what you felt about your body.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And I want every woman listening to really hear that because part of what I want you to learn is that you really are the expert. Nobody else can tell you when your body is working on all cylinders at a hundred percent you'll know that inside yourself, in your skin when you feel at home and you have great energy and your weight is where you want it to be and your sleep and your hair and your libido and yes, all the things. So after you got out of the acute phase, your oncologist doctors, they're like, okay Samantha, you're good. We're gonna follow you pretty closely I would imagine. But yes. What did you then do for yourself that you now teach other women? Well, this was the biggest thing, again, the eyeopening that we can be in better control of our health and our health future than we realized.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So I put that journalist hat on tightly and I dug into research and I spoke to every expert I could and I sought out opinions and answers and asked some really deep questions. And here I was, you know, living my life thinking I was healthy, living my career in a makeup chair every single day. Being as any, whether you're working on TV like very few of us, or doing the nine to five or the mom 6:00 AM to 11:00 PM we all put on makeup or potions and lotions and hair stuff and whatever the shellacking that was done of chemical bombs of potential harmful carcinogens and endocrine disruptors with mess, mess with our hormones, allergens, neurotoxins that are in our products that our own f d A here in the US approves no big deal. No oversight from these companies. No responsibility from these big brands. They just market to us.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's October Pink ribbons, slap it on, but hey, we're also giving you breast cancer at the same time. So yes, it sounds very cynical, but I've learned so much and yeah, I'm saying overnight you need to throw out everything in your house and start over. But making small methodical changes that end up changing how you are living your day-to-day life is, is really important. And so I realized the makeup and the haircare I was using the personal care products at home, the cleaning supplies all were filled with toxic junk. The foods I was eating and how I was eating and when I was eating all were really not coming into play to make me live my healthiest healthy life. See, I thought I was healthy and I realized I needed to be my healthiest healthy. And that's, that's why, you know, my whole thing has now the your healthiest healthy from the your healthiest healthy book that really launched a whole program, a membership community with my life coaching and workouts and experts to my live, my courses that are offered and my retreats and really just answering anyone I possibly can through social media and putting as much information out there so that we have the, the tools at our disposal.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So what were some of the most, you mentioned general categories, makeup, cleaning products, the things you were eating, what were some of the, the specific things that really shocked you when you're like, oh, and I mean maybe you don't wanna mention name brand names of products. I just realized that honestly any major big brand is pretty much like anything. You go to the department store pretty much you can is has a lot of toxic chemicals in it anytime you go down to the drugstore aisle, most of it also pretty toxic, thank goodness. And I will tell you the difference between now and back in 2014, thankfully we have so many the demand as consumers, right? They're finally hearing us, right? Even the big, big brands are starting to have little offshoot brands or an offshoot line of, I mean whether it's, you know, big brand x deodorant that is filled with aluminum and other toxic stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Now they have their aluminum free version because they realize they were losing some of the market share. And more and more, more kind of mom and pop shopper boutique like makeup brands and skincare brands are now becoming more str mainstream. You go into a place like a Sephora, they finally, and even Target, they finally have their clean brands. I have to look into what their requirements are. I don't know if they're like Samantha's level of clean, but you know what, it's a much baby steps. Might as well start there and you can always level up from there after that. Yes. And I'd say for anyone curious, if you want to look@ewg.org environmental working group.org, they list a lot of the mainstream brands and they, they give the products ratings. They tell you the ingredients that are toxic. But, and yes, a lot of these big brands are offering so-called quote unquote non-toxic products.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I say that with little quotes, my fingers in the air because they're aware that consumers know certain ingredients are toxic, but they're also aware that consumers are not so educated that they will miss certain other names. So they will actually create different ingredients that have different names that you won't recognize that are probably toxic too. So I find, and what I've done and what I teach my people to do is find the small brands that really are 100% non-toxic and all natural and they just don't have any chemicals. And you're not not gonna find 'em in a big box store. You might find a lot of them online and ask for referrals from friends. There are a lot of blog posts now where you can kind of Google top 15 all natural makeup brands and then research it yourself. Don't take their word for it and discover what's best for you.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
What guidelines do you offer for that? Well, first of all, I you, you already brought up the Environmental Working Group, which is a fantastic resource. They're a nonprofit. I love their one through 10 ratings. One being the cleanest for an overall product or one also being ingredient to ingredient, how toxic that ingredient is. 10 being like runaway fragrance. By the way, red alert is a nine and that's because fragrance is proprietary. So if you have fragrance as an ingredient and that company isn't being transparent and this clo what that fragrance is made of within the product, stay away from it. Because it oftentimes has a lot of one four dioxane, which is a, an endocrine disruptor. It has phthalates, which are endocrine disruptors. And another great point Dr. Karen that you made, which is that a brand might say here's our clean version, but, and it doesn't have to be quote unquote all natural because that also there are synthetic chemicals that are not harmful that the, the good brands will make sure that they are transparent and disclose that are in the ingredients labels.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So, cause I think people get scared away with all, all natural, that's not gonna work for me. It's not gonna have the staying power if you guys want. So I just finished shooting 65 episodes of a TV show and I had my hair makeup team who I've worked with for many years who are more than happy, they jumped at this and I was so happy we became teammates in this. I said, look, I'm going back on tv, I don't want toxic stuff in the dressing room every day on my face and our hair, us breathing it in. So before we shot, I tasked them with a challenge which was only bring in clean. And if you have a question about it, send the brand my way. I will vet it and let you know if I, if I'm like, it's approved or it's not. And Uhhuh tried a lot of different brands because there are a lot of clean brands.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
But then do they work? Is they, are they effective? Do they give you the appearance that you want on your face or with your hair? Do they have the lasting power? And I was shooting 12 hours a day, six episodes a day. So it was a very intense schedule. So if you want my list as you're listening of Clean Beauty that's been vetted, skincare, makeup, haircare, send me a DM on, mostly on Instagram, but you can try me on Facebook, Samantha Harris tv, like television, I will send you my list. I don't have skin in the game with most of the brands or anything like that. There are one or two that I've partnered with, but you don't have to use them. I'm gonna give you all the info and be straight up with you. Awesome. That's so generous. I hope you will take her up on that offer.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And I know that in your healthiest healthy eight easy ways to take control is one of those switching out your your beauty products. It is, it is. It's a huge step. And again, it doesn't have to be overnight baby steps. So let's say you're like, okay, I'm ready to switch out my makeup. I know how much money we spend on makeup and all of these things. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And the other thing for feminine care, and I know, you know, some of you may already be menopausal and you're not having to deal with menstrual cycles, but for those of you who are still, or you're at that later stage and you're having urine leakage and you have to have those types of pads, make sure that they're 100% organic cotton. Because if I show you what is in, we're talking about the bleach, the cotton that's been grown and and sprayed with Monsanto, glyphosate, and all these other horrible toxic chemicals, and you're putting it next to your most thin permeable skin. No, no, no. Or inside. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I love that you come from kind of a more traditional journalist background and that you discovered all this for yourself. I hate how you had to discover it. And I love that you're sharing this information and you're empowering women with this vital information, right? When people see you on TV and they think, oh, she's the pinnacle of beauty. And then you hear what she's sharing y'all about her hair and makeup and she told her people, I'm not sitting in this toxic soup for 12 hours a day every day for how many days. So what other kinds of ways to take control do you think are important for women to know about, to take control of their health? Well, a huge one. And I think possibly one of the biggest things people say, well, you know, I, especially I I even have my my 15 year old who wants, you know, it's all about how do I look, how do I look compared to everybody else?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I think most of your listeners like, I, I mean we all wanna look good, but I'm kind of past that. I wanna just feel great. I wanna live a long, healthy life in this one vessel that I have. So what can I do? How can I treat my body so that it doesn't just look good, but that it feels amazing and gives me the ability to do the things I need to accomplish. Not just the day to day, but the big picture of things that I yearn to do. Right? I wanna go hike mountains in Italy and I have like all, you know, I wanna get down to the ground with my eventual grandchildren and play and be able to get back up. So you, first of all, you can't out exercise a bad diet. However, right? Daily movement is essential, very, very essential. But food is possibly one of the biggest changes you can make.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'm not telling you you have to give up your favorite corner bakery or you have to not have that steak when you go to the restaurant that you just love at that steakhouse. But when we're looking at food in general, we really wanna focus on a plant forward or plant-based diet. So the biggest thing is that women only get about 12 grams of fiber per day on average. And what we need to thrive and live optimally is closer to 30 to 35 grams of fiber per day. And even our own U S D A only says 25 grams, which actually you can talk to any expert worth their salt, they will tell you it's over 30 grams a day we need. And so the way to get that is increase your vegetable intake, you know, really non-starchy veggies. So if you're having a bunch of baked potatoes every day, that's not really qualifying non-starchy.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We're talking about your cruciferous veggies, which are great cancer fighters. That's gonna be your Brussels sprouts and your broccoli and your cauliflower broccoli sprouts are amazing. You know, all of those cr kale and then leafy greens are at the top of that nutrient density pyramid. If you could only have one thing and you gotta choose what's the best nutrient density for my caloric buck, it would be leafy green, dark leafy greens, but adding in berries, great cancer fighters, tons of fiber getting in those, the chia seeds, the flax seeded flax seeds, also a great cancer fighter, matcha green tea powder changing up kind and the color of veggies that you're having and really making sure that your microbiome right, that's the, the diversity within your gut is as diverse as possible. So you wanna aim for about 30 different plant-based foods per week. And that means not just fruits and veggies, but also nuts and seeds and legumes whole grains.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
So quinoa, taf, amaranth Pharaoh, things like that. All count, which is great. And actually spices and herbs also count, and if you don't, doesn't even take a lot of those to count of as one of those 30. So that was the biggest food change I did was I flipped my plate as the meat eating Minnesotan with a slab front and center. I flip my plate to fill at least half my plate full of veggies at every meal. So my day starts with a smoothie and that's, I began to intermittent fast during covid. So now that's part of my life that's really can be very beneficial as well. And you guys can reach out to me on, on more about intermittent fasting, but so whenever I'm breaking my fast, it's with some cashews or cashews and almonds and then my smoothie because you can pack so many of the nutrients that are great for you and beneficial.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think I have something like 18 of my 30, all of fruit and vegetables all in my smoothie in one, one fell swoop. So it's, it's great, you know, you can throw all the goodness in there and then really just getting that variety in. Yes. So what you're eating super important. You've gotta work on that plant forward, plant-based plant predominant for sure. Intermittent fasting is a great tool. We've had a lot of the experts on that on the show. Talking about intermittent fasting, it's a tool that I use as well, but I love to say it's a tool, not necessarily a religion. Yeah. So treat it like, like a tool. All right. So we've talked about getting rid of the toxins. We've talked about your diet. What are some of the other easy ways to take control? And I know you have a lot more in your book, you have a lot more in your programs to go in depth, but I want people to kind of get a, an idea.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Well, you know, the other thing is that leads to disease is stress. And we all live in such a stressful world because our phones are always dinging us. We're trying to fit 28 hours into 24 or maybe 30. In my mind,
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, you're super busy
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But what I did realize that I could do was breathe and breathe, whether it's for 30 seconds or for five minutes or for 15, if I can, where I'm taking good deep belly breaths. There's a whole variety. You guys can google it, you can reach out to Dr. Kirin or to me. There's so many different ways to integrate breath work into your life. But even taking that, you know, two seconds of deep and exhales before you go into a meeting, when you park the car and turn off the ignition before you get out, finding those little cracks in the day where you can add in a couple of deep breaths, it immediately ignites your parasympathetic your rest and digest nervous system. And that can't be active if your sympathetic is in fight or flight. So it automatically deactivates the fight or flight and activates this resting, calming wonderful part of your nervous system.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
And that makes a big difference as well, I find. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And what about the role of self love? We hear a lot about that. I don't, to me that's not a mani-pedi you share this quote with me before we started that I love be kind, especially to yourself. So can you talk about that and, and how self-love has played a role? I'm sure it has in you healing and doing all of the things that you do and supporting all the people that you support. How does that show up? How are you kind to yourself? Well, in two different ways with self-care, for sure. And my mornings when I'm not traveling or shooting my mornings have become self-care mornings, and sometimes I get guilty about it because I realize all the other things on my to-do list are not getting done like I want them to get done, but I'm giving myself time for that workout to make the smoothie.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
And I have an infrared sauna that I sit at in. And I will say I started out meditating in there and now I, I will say I, I, I'll be honest, I do answer a lot of my dms while I'm in there, but no infrared sweat. I try to put it down for at least 10 minutes and put on a, a guided meditation. So I do breathe and I, I lay down, I put my legs up the wall in the sauna and it's a little portable popup. You guys can reach out to me. I love it because it's much more affordable than those big, you know, structured ones that you see at like infrared Sauna place or in like, some big Hollywood celebrities house that nobody can afford. I'm all about affordable ways to have healthcare hacks. But the other thing is how we talk to ourself in terms of being kind to ourself.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
We oftentimes are worse to ourselves and talk to ourselves whether we're in thought or out loud, worse than we would ever speak to somebody else. So when you pass that mirror next time, and the first thought is, oh gosh, I'm so wrinkled, gosh, I look so fat, whatever it is, first just acknowledge, just acknowledge that you had that thought as your first thought. It's a process. Then the next challenge is flip the script on yourself and find something positive that you like. I love the twinkle in my eye. I love how strong my arms are because I can carry my kids or I can hug my family or whatever that is. So that eventually the more positive self-talk we have and the more we push out the negative self-talk, it's something that our brain, even if we're not saying it out loud, if we're thinking it, our whole body hears it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And so it affects our wellbeing and our sense of satisfaction for life and happiness with ourselves. So being kind to yourself and then also it's, you know, the saying of it's a lot easier what to treat someone with syrup than with salt or I with vinegar. I don't know. There's some sort of saying like, but it it, the, the gentle smile to a stranger, someone who's off because you, you know, you cut in front of them and you didn't mean to a warm wave and smile of apology. It will actually go a long way versus giving them the finger back
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And then now she's really cultivating this self-love. I totally wish we had time to go through all eight aspects of what you teach women, but we don't have enough time. So I'm gonna direct everyone before we sign off, we'll have you share your program. We'll have the links in the show notes, we'll have you share again, all the places they can find you. But I wanna ask you a question. I don't know if anyone's ever asked you this and you share this quote with me before we started that I love keep doing what you're doing and you will keep getting what you're getting. Where do you think you would be and what do you think would have happened if after your cancer diagnosis and your immediate treatment, you hadn't done the research, you didn't look into this, you just accepted what most women accept.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Oh, cancer just happens out of the blue. I always say, not out of the blue, but out of the oblivious, where do you think you would be now? Which is what, 10 years later? I first of all would fear the recurrence, but a hundred percent because my chance of recurrence would've been a a lot greater if I hadn't started to make the changes that I am making or the, or the diagnosis, maybe not at this point, but maybe in another 10 or 20 years of another chronic disease that, you know, again, we can't take, I wish we could take 100% control by making these changes. We can't. And if you're stressing too much that, oh gosh, I'm supposed to be intermittent fasting and I broke it at 8:00 AM or I shouldn't be drinking too much wine because it could increase breast cancer risk and I had two glasses last night with friends, that stress is actually going to be more harmful.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
So we have to take everything in stride and find that, that the, the 90 10 rule or even the 80 20 rule, where the majority of the time you're making these helpful decisions. If I hadn't made these choices, first of all, I wouldn't have connected with the incredible women who I have been able to connect with and help and support and guide. And to me that has been the biggest gift of cancer and helping others live their healthiest healthy lives. That's amazing. Yes. Connection. And then with your voice and your platform, what you're able to offer every one in terms of information, I always say knowledge, tools, and support. That's what every woman needs. And so you're able to offer that. Thank you so much for coming on the hormone prescription and sharing your journey and your wisdom and your knowledge, tools and support.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
We'll have all the links in the show notes, but please do talk a little bit about your healthiest healthy community that you've created and the other places that people can find you online. Well, I love that. You know, first of all, I love live television. So the fact that I do live coaching, live workouts and bring in a live guest expert interview every week is just very much in line with what I love to do because I love to talk, but sharing and giving good takeaway. So the, your Healthiest healthy community is a membership based subscription platform, and you get access to me and immediate, you know, or pretty immediate responses in helping you live your healthiest healthy life for those who aren't interested in being part of a, a full group like that. Then I just recently launched Your Healthiest Healthy Courses, and these are basically both coaching sessions and expert guests who are giving topic-based information through the courses.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So I have a two-part thriving after breast cancer course, a course on intermittent fasting, on gut health, on weight loss. We have them coming up on sleep and hormone balance and so many other topics. So that way you can go, okay, I'm just really right now focused on this. So that's what I want from Samantha. And then the other big thing that I just love and I live for every year are my, your healthiest healthy retreats. I have one in Santa Monica, California Beachside every year does a two day workshop. And then in Utah usually in October or November this year, it's October of 2023, but your Healthiest Healthy retreat. So four days and three nights hiking for all levels, by the way, and meditation and workshops with me and a lot of one-on-one coaching and advice and so much more. And I just, I, I, I just, it's my favorite thing in the whole year.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I love that. Thank you so much for those amazing resources, Anne, for sharing your brilliance and wisdom with us today on the show. Thank you. Thank you. And again, you guys reach out to me, DM me and I will get back to you. Awesome. Thank you for watch for joining us for another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. I know that you learned something inspiring, uplifting, informative today, and I'm gonna challenge you to take action, take one step. What's one thing you could do differently today? Maybe take a couple deep breaths as we're closing out this episode. Thanks so much for joining me, and I look forward to seeing you again next week for another episode of The Hormone Prescription. Until then, peace, love, and hormones, y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Thank you so much for listening. I know that incredible vitality occurs for women over 40 when we learn to speak hormone and balance these vital regulators to create the health and the life that we deserve. If you're enjoying this podcast, I'd love it if you'd give me a review and subscribe. It really does help this podcast out so much. You can visit the hormone prescription.com where we have some free gifts for you, and you can sign up to have a hormone evaluation with me on the podcast to gain clarity into your personal situation. Until next time, remember, take small steps each day to balance your hormones and watch the wonderful changes in your health that begin to unfold for you. Talk to you soon.
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Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Unlock The Mysteries of Female Fat Loss And Set Your Spirit Free
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
In this episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, Karen Martel, a Certified Hormone Specialist & Transformational Nutrition Coach, joins us to provide insights on how to unlock the mysteries of female fat loss. In a candid conversation, Karen shares her journey of struggling with health issues and how she overcame these challenges to become a leading expert in women's hormone health and weight management.
Throughout the episode, Karen provides invaluable information on methods to balance and optimize hormones in peri and post menopause, and breakthrough weight loss resistance. Her practical tips and advice make a considerable impact on women's lives struggling with similar issues.
Karen's passion for helping women improve their hormone health stems from her own experiences, and her approach to women's health is bold and practical. She is the host of the top 100 rated women's health podcast, "The Other Side of Weight Loss", where she shares her deep knowledge and expertise on female fat loss and hormone imbalance.
Episode Highlights:
- Unlocking female fat loss secrets
- Understanding hormonal challenges in peri and post menopause
- Overcoming weight loss resistance
- Karen's personal journey and experiences
- Bold and practical approaches to women's hormonal health
Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast for more expert insights and breakthrough approaches in women's hormonal health!
Speaker 1 (00:00):
What if you could break through weight loss resistance with a novel bioidentical hormone, would you try it? Stay tuned to find out if I would.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones and our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself Again. As an ob gyn, I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue. Now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much for joining me today as we're going to dive into a novel tool that's a bioidentical hormone that could help you lose up to 5% of your body weight in fat. Wanna know about it? Sure you do. Right? We always wanna look for all the natural options that could help us safely and effectively be more healthy. Right? If that includes losing weight, lose weight, regain energy, right? All the things you still gotta do all the things, but maybe this is something that can give you a little boost. We're gonna dive into that in this episode. And our guest today, Karen Martel, is gonna tell us about it and you're gonna see if I'm gonna try it or not and would you try it or not. So we're gonna have some information on that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But we're also gonna take a little tour off the main road that we usually talk about when we talk about breaking through weight loss resistance. And that has to do with the intangibles related to losing weight. The intangibles related to going from perimenopause to menopause, all the intangibles related to every symptom or disease that you might have. What are those? Well, the thoughts, feelings, and beliefs that are driving or supporting that energetic disruption. That is the symptom that you have, whether it's excess weight or you've got diabetes and your pancreas isn't functioning well, or you name the disease or symptom. There's some underlying spiritual, if you will, or energetic, cause we're gonna dive into that too. As my GE guest today, who is a weight loss resistance specialist has a lot of experience with that, as do I on my journey. It really is something that you will come to face yourself when you're healing from disease, if you're doing it right, and if you want the optimum outcomes, it really is key.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So I'll tell you a little bit about Karen, then we'll get started. She's a certified hormone specialist and transformational nutrition coach and women's weight loss expert. She's got a top 100 rated women's health podcast. It's called The Other Side of Weight Loss, where she helps women to unlock the mysteries of female fat loss and hormone imbalance. She struggled with her own health issues, but she was determined to bring her knowledge to others with a bold new approach to women's hormone health and weight management. Her passion lies in helping women balance and optimize their hormones in per and post-menopause and breakthrough weight loss resistance. Yes. Please help me welcome Karen Martel to the hormone prescription.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Thank you very much for having me, Dr. Kyrin. I'm very excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, we talk about weight loss resistance. It's such a problem for women once we hit 40 and midlife and we age, and you really have some unique perspectives on some tools that are novel that can assist us with this weight loss resistance, and also how to address something that most people aren't aware of as an issue for them around weight loss at midlife. So maybe actually you can start by sharing a little bit about your journey and how you zeroed in on hormones and weight loss resistance and all things that we, women over 40 are concerned with
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes,
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And I only continued to gain weight. And I went to the doctor, I was put on an antidepressant, I was given a sleeping pill and kind of told to, you know, go on my way. And nobody at that time would've told me I was 33. Nobody would've said, Hey, maybe this is your hormones. And after a lot of struggling and a lot of different diets and exercise programs, I decided that I had to take matters into my own hands. And I started digging into research and decided, I think this has something to do with my hormones. And so I ended up going to a naturopath and having my hormones tested through saliva testing at the time. And it came out that I was, you know, super low on progesterone, high estrogen, and I had very low cortisol and D A T A, which I'm sure your listeners are familiar with, those two hormones and those are your stress hormones.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And there I was just doing everything wrong. According to that hormonal profile, I was doing high amounts of cardio. I'm starving myself. I later found out that I also was hypothyroid and had no idea, which also those two things would've perpetuated that. So I had to go, okay, I have to make a serious shift because I didn't even think I was a stressed out person. So I started, I quit the, the hardcore CrossFitting and starving myself. And I actually started doing yoga all the time. I started asking for help. And the biggest piece of that puzzle was I started to really look at the spiritual side of what was happening. And I realized that there was a lot of things that I had not dealt with from my past. I had always had really bad self body image. I had an eating disorder as a teenager, I had sexual abuse.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
There was a lot of things that Karen had not dealt with. And so I went on a bit of a journey and I will tell you, it was not quick. There was no quick fixing this. And it took probably a good year of like really working on these things, slowing down, like looking at the spiritual aspect of things, dealing with some of the past stuff that the weight finally started to slowly come off. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And then at the age of 42, I started to go into menopause and overnight Wow. Yeah. Overnight I had my thyroid crash on me and I started missing my periods. I started having hot flashes. I was, I gained two months and was like, what the heck? Because I really didn't think, I said at that point in time, I had been, you know, 10 years nutritionist, weight loss coach, like doing everything right. I don't drink, I don't, you know, dealing with the, the mental stuff, sleeping well. Like I, I really had all the boxes checked and then behold it happens again. And so that sent me on a mission to find out, okay, what's happening with my, my hormones? Why am I going into menopause so early? I was able to reverse it and I, at 47 today, I still have my period and I'm doing well. But it was a big eye-opener. Both times that when that happened to me, and I just, I know now work with so many women that very similar things have happened to them too, where they're, they are really healthy and they're trying to do things right, but they can't get that weight off. So
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, that period is that fifth vital sign. And when it starts going wonka donk, that is your sign emergency. Something is wrong. Just like if your pulse is sky high or your respiratory rate or you have a really high fever when your period, it really should be like clockwork. Your body has a timing mechanism where your period should come every, you know, 28 days or whatever is normal for you. And when it doesn't and it stops or it's late or it's irregular, that really should be your sign to look for the cause, not to get on a synthetic hormone. Just shut up your female system. Right? Everybody's heard me say that don't get on the birth control pill
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Or
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know, the vaginal ring or devil shots like was done to me for decades. That's not the answer ladies. It's really not the answer. You gotta find the cause. So yeah, you hit that wall wow. At 42 and that, you know, bring drive home. Another very important point I wanna point out is that a lot of times if you go to a corporate or mainstream doctor with that scenario, they're just gonna say, oh yep, you're going into menopause. Oh well it's just biology. There's nothing we can do. And they're not going to investigate it. But you know, what you just heard Karen say was that she found the underlying cause she remediated it and then she had got her periods back and it wasn't menopause. So you don't wanna go into hormonal poverty any sooner than you have to, cuz then you have to face the consequences of them.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So let's dive into, you mentioned some of the spiritual things. Let's dive into that cuz that's something we haven't talked about on the podcast that I think is super important. And then after that we'll dive into this novel tool that really is very hot and late breaking tool that you can use to help your weight loss resistance and lots of other problems in health that a lot of people don't know about. So we'll dive into that next, but what were some of your understandings that you learned through that period that you just described about the spiritual nature of this change you were going through?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean for my, myself personally, and I think for so many women that body self-image was a huge piece that I had to really look at. And I had self-abuse myself for a very long time. I was an alcoholic, I was a drug addict. Like I said, I had been raped, I had very bad eating disorder. I was bulimic for many years and I hadn't looked at any of that. I just literally had numbed myself and just pushed it away and thought, well I know that that's not good and that I probably am a little bit messed up from it, but I recognize that that wasn't a good thing. So I must be fine
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I had to, I was in therapy for seven years and it was, it wasn't traditional therapy. I did a lot of what connected with me. I had started with traditional therapy and then I moved into spiritual therapy and I started seeing an energy worker. That was life-changing for me. And that's what really connected with me. And I really highly recommend that women find somebody that's gonna connect with them. Because I think a lot of the time women don't look at these problems because they don't, they immediately think if, if I'm going to go down that road, I gotta go see a therapist and I don't wanna do that. I'm not gonna go talk to somebody about my problems doesn't work, what are like, they have some issues around that. And it doesn't have to be that. It could be something completely different. E every single one of us is different.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I've had, I've seen people that have gotten so much help just from body work, like going or doing yoga. Like there's so many things that you can do to connect with self. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes. And you know, I identify with a lot of the things that you shared. I'm wondering for everyone if you could talk about what you mean by spiritual. Because some people hear that and they're like, oh, that's not religion. I'm religious, I'm ex religion, I'm not gonna hear this, I can't hear this because spirituality is anti-religion. So maybe you could address that. So what do you mean by spiritual aspects? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It can mean religion. I think that spirituality, I think religion is under that umbrella. So what it's whatever feeds your spirit. So if that is religion, no matter what religion it is mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh yeah. I mean to me it's the part of us that enlivens the human form that we're in, that we get to use while we're in this, on this earth plane. And it represents all of who we've ever been and ever will be and what we're meant to express in this lifetime. What we're meant to experience, the people we're meant to come in contact with. And to me, when I talk about the spirituality of perimenopause or menopause or the spirituality of any disease, I think there is a spiritual lesson in, in every symptom and disorder that we can experience. I'm talking about looking for the deeper meaning that isn't obvious, right? If you, when I weighed 243 pounds and I looked in the mirror, well you could, I could see I was morbidly obese. Right? But what's the meaning? What's the meaning behind that? More than, oh, I had hormonal imbalances is I had toxicities, I had gut dysfunction, I had all these physical causes contributing to it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I had energetic causes, right? Thoughts, feelings, beliefs, all garnered from past experiences that I had had that led me to certain belief systems. So it's interesting with obesity, they found in some of the studies, I think his name is Filetti, who did some of the research on this. And he just happened to notice that 80% of the women in, in the study he was doing on obesity had been sexually abused. And that's ultimately what I think led to the ACE trials, the adverse childhood experienced trials. Cuz they were starting to see this link between adverse childhood experiences, emotional psychosocial experiences, and physical health problems. And then when he, he noticed this 80% incidence of childhood sexual abuse among these women in this study that were obese. So to me it's really looking at the deeper meaning. And so how did that show up for you? Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The thyroids energetically signifies your voice chakra. So we have these energy centers in our body, and this isn't woowoo, this is science. We have energy centers throughout our body. And the voice chakra sits right where your thyroid is. And I think that this is, I personally think this is why so many more women have it than men have thyroid problems, is because we don't tend to speak our mind as much as men do. We tend to stuff things down. We're not, we're taught that, you know, maybe not to voice our emotions so much. And I, looking back at my history and all the times I didn't say anything when I wanted to say something, when I wanted to stop that person from abusing me, when I had so much self-hatred for myself, I did not think that I was capable of being loved even. And that I think was really tied up in my thyroid.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I don't think it was something that I dealt with over those first few years of therapy. I don't think I, cause the thyroid thing didn't come in until later. And then I was like, oh, I'm not surprised that I have a thyroid problem. And I didn't address it. And so I really think it was my body going, n you have to pay attention to this now. This is, you have to start speaking your mind and you have to start loving yourself. And it sounds really like, oh, so cliche, oh, love yourself. But looking back at my history, I never did. I never loved myself. I had always hated my body. I always critiqued it. I didn't trust myself. I didn't, there was so many things that needed to be unpacked. And coming into my forties, going into menopause and gaining that much weight, especially as a weight loss coach, that was super hard on my ego.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
And I knew that no matter what I did, this was interesting. No matter what I did, I would not have lost the weight then I knew it. So every time I would like go, oh, you know, the, the old patterns would start to come up and I'd say, oh, I, I better start, you know, cutting down on the calories and we better start working out harder. And then I'd be like, Nope, stop. Don't do that. Because then that's like going back into that old pattern of dieting and thinking that that was the answer. Cause for me it's, it wasn't, and I knew that, I knew that there was something emotional, like you said, like there's always something emotional to every medical problem, every chronic ailment that you've got. I really truly believe that there is going to be an emotional component to it. Whether it's the full root cause, whether it's just a third of it, who knows. But there's always something emotional or something that, that your body is trying to get you to look at in your life.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I totally agree with that 100%. And some of the things that you said, I wanna, let's go back and talk about this. So, you know, you very are very open and very freely shared some of your struggles earlier. And then you said, I hated myself. And the average per woman, if you ask her, do you hate yourself? She's gonna say no. And if you ask her, do you love yourself? She's gonna say yes. So I'm thinking we probably, because that probably would've been me at one point also. And then there was a point where I realized, no, I actually treat myself as if I hate myself,
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And I was so ashamed and I felt so guilt. I was like, what, what? How can I even think that? And so I had to look at it and be like, where's that coming from? And I'm like, it's coming from the fact that I've done this for the last 30 years of my life. I've looked in the mirror and I have cut myself down. I, it's al it's never like, Hey, I'm looking good. Look at how great my stomach looks. I'm looking so hot. Like, it's usually like, we don't do that. We right. We pick up the one or like many things, whatever it is. But you'll, you'll nitpick. You'll be like, what's this freckle doing here on my face?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
They're going, what? Look at my stomach, look at my legs, look at my cellulite, look at my hair, look at my wrinkles, look at my chest, look at my breasts. Like it's never ending. And so ask yourself like, how, how is your day spent talking to yourself? Are you constantly worried about your weight? Are you constantly worried about the food that's going into your mouth? Are you constantly going, Ooh, I'm gonna start this tomorrow. Ooh, I'm gonna eat better today. I'm gonna eat better tomorrow. I'm gonna start the diet next week. Because I think majority of women do this, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yes. And you know, I love the litmus test for that because it's such a habitual way that most of us think when we look in the mirror, we're not looking for what we love. We're looking for the things we don't like that we need to fix so we can be perfect. Would you say that to a friend? Would you say your friend says, oh Karen, I lost 10 pounds. Look I lost 10 pounds. And they proudly come before you and you go, you know what? Yeah. But you've got fat on the back of that arm and you need to lose that. What would your friend say to you? She would not be your friend anymore. Right. That's how you know you're hating on yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, exactly. And, and hate's a strong word, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Speaker 3 (25:10):
You know, like how much are you loving on yourself? Maybe ask that. How much are you actually just going like, you are rocking it. You look so fantastic. I had a friend last year who was desperately trying to lose weight. She was eating, trying to eat right. She was exercising. And then I didn't talk to her for like a month or two. And when I saw her, she had lost weight. And so I'm thinking like, oh, all my tips are working for her. Right? And she said, you know what Karen? I wasn't losing weight no matter what I was doing. And she said, so I, I stopped thinking about it. Instead I would get myself naked and I would stand in front of my mirror and I would tell myself how great I looked. And she said, I did that consistently
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's so true. One other thing I noticed, I just wanna share cuz I know some people listening are gonna be like, oh my gosh, I do that too is so I had been traveling and not been able to keep to my eating and exercise schedule and I gained a few pounds and then I came to a city here in Argentina where I could kind of get settled and get to a good gym and eat like I like to eat. And so I just started doing, doing the things that I do for my health. And then I started seeing that weight come off, come off. And I was very pleased. But instead of just continuing to love myself and give my body what it needed, I turned it into a project and I'm like, oh my gosh, I lost five pounds. I bet I could lose another eight pounds this month if I up my gym.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And I cut my intermittent fasting to only eating four hours a day. And before I knew it, I had made myself in my progress into nothing. And I had made myself into a project and objectified myself instead of just loving myself and giving my body what it needs. Because I know she'll go to what the weight she likes. And I know there's some people listening going like, oh my gosh, I do that too. So you're not alone. But then what is the loving thing to let go of that I don't stop, I'm not, I don't usually weigh myself. Why did I even get on this scale? Right? It's not loving. So now I don't, not
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Not on
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The scale, right? I'm still in in Buenos Aries and I just go do the exercise and give my body the food it needs. That's loving. So how does a yeah. Self love look. How would you explain that? What kind of actions would it be?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think both with my, both times there when I was in my thirties and when I was in my forties, when I remember getting to a point even in my late thirties where I realized that I was still trying to lose weight even though I was at 128 pounds, that was my weight set point. It would never move from that. It would be like I would try something extreme, I'd lose some weight and it would just go right back to 1 28. And I just kept doing this for years. And I was constantly like, I wanna get down, I wanna get down. I shouldn't be this weight. I should be 1 25, I should be one 20, whatever it might be. And then I remember this one day, it just dawned on me, I'm like, this is where my body wants to be
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And I never will be. I never have been, I never will be. So quit trying to get down to this unrealistic weight. And I'm like, what, Karen, are you really willing to do what it would take to be 120 pounds? Like I would have to starve myself. I would have to, I I, even if I did, I still don't think I would've gotten down to that. And I let it go cuz I was like, I can sit here and spend the rest of my life trying to get down to this fricking number on the scale because I feel like that's how I should look. Or I can accept where I'm at right now and work on just accepting that. And so I did and I did great. And for many years I was, I was very pleased with where I was at till I hit my forties and I, and I gained the 15 pounds and then I immediately started to hate on myself.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
But I did the same thing where I, I knew if no matter what I was gonna do at that time, I wouldn't have been able to lose the weight. And so I worked on loving myself and I worked on sharing that message. And I think that that really helped because menopausal women, perimenopausal women and menopausal women, I really believe that it's very normal for us to soften a little bit. It just is men do. So why can't women? And it's not realistic to think we're gonna look like we did when we were 20, when we're 50. It's just not, and it's okay to soften a little bit and we need to start accepting that and having that be the normal where we can look at women that are in this midlife go and go, they look beautiful because I do, I look at women my age and I think they're beautiful when they're healthy.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And so I just kept telling myself that is, I'm gonna be healthy. I'm gonna still eat right, I'm gonna still exercise, I'm gonna still do yoga and I'm gonna be healthy. And I had super clear skin and I, and I looked good. And yes, I was more overweight than I wanted to be. And I knew that that would come off eventually. And it did take a couple of years and it was slowly started to come off. And I still was though accepting. Cause I still wasn't down to 1 28. I still accepted that I needed to, that it was okay for me to soften a little bit mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I mean, I think if you do want to be the same as at 60 as you were at 20, you can do it. It's just, do you want to do it? I will say, I wanna ask you this cuz I, I don't know how old you are now. I'm in my fifties 47.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Okay. So my generation, I guess that's your generation. I don't know if we're, I'm a baby boomer. I think we had some pretty unrealistic expectations of what weight we were supposed to be at any age. Yeah. Literally we had, you know, those little Barbie dolls where you could wrap your little pinky finger around their waist. And for my whole life, I thought because my thighs touched and I didn't have a gap
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, you could look like you did when you were 20, but what is it gonna take to get there? Like, how much suffering are you going to to have to go through and, and, and it's just not realistic. And I always tell women like whatever their numbers that they're trying to get down to, I asked them, when was the last time you were at that number and how long were you there for? Because usually it's like, oh, well I did this really extreme diet when I was 25 and I got down to 115 pounds, so I think that's what I'd like to be at because I love the way I looked. I'm like, yeah, I bet you did. But is that realistic? No, that's not your set point. So I just think be realistic about it. Be okay with softening a little bit. I'm not saying you have to accept being, you know, 300 pounds or two.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Like I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that there is a place where you have to begin to accept where you're at because it likely will not change. Like you can only get down to that set point. Maybe that a healthy set point that is still maybe in your eyes overweight, even though it's only like five to 10 pounds or 15 pounds overweight maybe for you. But could you just work on accepting that and loving yourself for that? And just focusing on being healthy and feeling really good. And that's, I think, a really hard thing to ask women really, really hard.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And what about the cultural norms that we grew up with, with very skinny barbies and a very skinny twiggy kinda expectation of what the definition of beauty was and what we should look like? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Well I, I ask you then, all of you, how many women do you know that look like that? Especially in their forties, even in their thirties, how many women did you know that were stick thin and had a perfect model figure? I can count like two friends out of all my friends that looked like that. Most didn't. So it's more normal to have curves than not to have curves. And we just see it in the magazines as these, this 1% of society of women that ha that were literally born genetically superior and that have those shredded bo like, they just come out looking fantastic and never have to worry about their weight. So it's more normal to be curvaceous and we have to tell ourselves this, that, that, that is what's normal. It's not normal. And, and look at men, geez, the discre, like between men and women.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I just, it drives me nuts that men, all of my guy friends right now, they're in their forties and fifties. They've got the bellies. They're not getting Botox, they're not doing plastic surgery, they're not concerned
Speaker 3 (35:11):
This is a time in our life where we, it's all about us finally. You know, like we in our twenties and thirties, it's all about our career, having children, getting married, and a lot of the time, right? We, we've, at this point, we've figured out if we're keeping the man or we're getting rid of 'em or, or, or your wife, whatever it is. And as we go into these years, our hormones start to shift. And I really think that this is is a calling to start paying attention to yourself, to start paying attention to your health mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So one of the things that you shared with me before we started, I said, oh, we have to talk about that, that you can do to love yourself and really help yourself be your best as you age is peptide therapy, particularly if you're experiencing weight loss resistance. And I thought that is something that we should cover and talk about in this episode. So tell me how you became introduced with peptide therapy to help weight loss resistance. Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
So we have actually a, a peptide weight loss program now because it started last year when I had a client who had Hashimotos. She was one of those women that was doing everything right, eating right, exercising, could not lose the weight no matter what she did. She had optimized her hormone, she optimized the thyroid, could not get the weight off. And we have, we, I hadn't seen her for a couple months, we have this session together and she just lost 17 pounds,
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I'm gonna give this a go. So I try it for myself and it was a complete disaster, to be honest,
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So I do it just the the peptide. I don't do the name brand Manjaro. So that's called Tze Peptide. So there's Semaglutide and there's Tpat. Tpat is the newest Semaglutide, which is also known as ozempic has been around for 10 years. So we've got a lot of research now on that originally developed for type two diabetics and they realized that, oh my goodness, people are losing a ton of weight, but they're on average in a year's time, or 72 weeks I think it was, they were losing 15 to 20% of their weight. Which just so everybody knows bef prior to this drug, if a drug could help a person lose 5% of their weight, that was considered amazing. Cuz that's all we had seen. That was how good it got. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
You know, cholesterol was getting better, their fatty liver was disappearing. It was helping there, there's research now showing that it helps to prevent Alzheimer's disease, plaque formation on the brain. All of these little metabolic markers were getting substantially better. People were getting off blood pressure mega medications and so many things were getting better mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Well, this drug eliminates that need. So weight loss becomes easier than it's ever been before in your entire life. It's nuts how it works. So I went on Tze peptide, I was at 138 pounds and no side effects. In six weeks I lost 10 pounds and it was mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Well, you could go on this drug and it's gonna gonna get you down to that 130 pounds. But if you wish that you could go actually down even farther. So if you came off of it, you would likely, as long as you were eating right and still exercising, you could go back. You may gain back, let's say right back up to maybe the hundred and 30, because that's your normal set point when most women I find have to stay on a maintenance dose. So they have to have seen everything from once every couple weeks to every six weeks. They have to do an injection, their once a week injection. So they, you start to spread them apart and then you can maintain that weight loss as long as you continue doing a shot every four to six weeks. Sometimes did everybody's individual. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So can you talk a little bit about how semaglutide works? So everybody knows like, is this an appetite suppressant? Is this uppers? What is it?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
No, definitely not. Uppers. So both semaglutide and tze peptide are hormones actually. And they're gut hormones. We produce them in our gut and then they tell your brain when you're full. So when you're eating these, because we're increasing, so they're 90, you can think of them as, I think of 'em as like a bioidentical hormone. They're 94% bioidentical to something you already make in your body. So it's gonna create more of this hormone that's gonna be telling you that you're full a heck of a lot faster. So there's no stimulation to it. It slows gastric emptying as well. It does affect the dopamine centers of the brain and the pleasure centers. So you don't get the same payoff from food, drugs, alcohol. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Speaker 1 (44:11):
And then everybody's gonna wanna know, oh my gosh, I want this, what does it cost?
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Unfortunately, if you're not diabetic, you cannot get it covered through, if you've got insurance, you will not get it covered if you're not diabetic. Ozempic has now been approved for weight loss for obesity, but you have to be, I think it is over 30% or 35% bmi. So if you were to just go and get yourself a prescription, manjaro is gonna cost you about $1,500 a month. Semaglutide is about 1200 a month, but there's now compounding pharmacies that are making it. So compounding pharmacies can make semaglutide. And you're looking at about 200, 2 50 a month for that through a compounding pharmacy. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
So then you can get it through peptide sites. So I, I don't know how much you've talked about peptides on here, but you know, there's growth hormone peptides, b BPC 1 57, all of these very familiar peptides that people are using now, and they're ordering them online from reputable peptide sites. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I mean, I'm still a proponent of addressing the underlying root cause, but if something is natural and can be an aid to assist you, hey, why not? In fact, as you're talking about it, I've never, I always have to try everything first. You know, that's how I developed same everything that I I do with women is what I learned from losing a hundred pounds and getting off all prescription medications and healing from all the chronic medical conditions I had. I said I was gonna see if it worked, and then if it worked, I was gonna spend the rest of my life teaching other women about it. So that's what I do. And when I hear about something that could help us, that isn't gonna harm us, and you know, with it being a peptide, that's just a protein and it is fairly bioidentical. I'll tell everyone right now, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna try it and I'll give you my feedback. But it sounds like you've had a, some good results with this. Do you wanna share any patient stories that come to mind? Oh,
Speaker 3 (47:01):
I've got so many patient stories. It's, it's so gratifying. It's just, we've been, we've been brain, we've been, not brain, we've been, it has been very, very hard. Our whole lives to lose weight. Like weight loss is really hard. And we all know this. And I have spent my life helping women to lose weight. Like, it's something I'm very passionate about. And I feel the same way as you do Dr. Kiran, that you have to look at all of these other factors. You know, it's, you gotta look at your hormones for all of you perimenopausal, menopausal women. You've gotta address the hormone loss, right? Well, you're gonna be, if you go take these peptides, you have to building, you're building a house on sand. That's what I'm saying. It's like you're building a house on sand, you gotta have a foundation. And so this is why we've created a program to go with it, because you could go out, buy these peptides on your own, go for it.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
But you know, if you're not, if you're still not eating right and you're not exercising, you're not replacing those hormones and working on your spiritual self like we've talked about here today. Then I just feel like, why, why? Like, why don't do that to your health? Don't use it as a, well, I'm gonna go eat my donut and I'm not gonna lose any weight. That's not good for your health then. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
So work on the eating habits, work on the time that you eat, work on how much you eat because it's very hard to overeat on this drug. Use this as a positive thing. And it is very exciting because you just, the weight just falls off and it's like, oh my gosh. Like I felt, I, I've gone through this like battle within myself of guilt and shame and like, oh, it's been nuts. I've just been like, oh my. And like, and I've had to turn and look at like, some of these things that have arisen because I feel like if it's not hard, then I have no right to be thin.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Wow. That's a belief system. Do you like believing that
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yes. Anne, I just wanna reiterate, you gotta address the underlying causes. Otherwise you are building a house on sand. If you don't fix your hormones and detoxify and get rid of the inflammation and fix your gut and do all the things, you still gotta do that. Well feel
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Good. You may be thin, but you're gonna feel like garbage.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Right? And I, I will reiterate, I know we have a difference of opinion. It was pretty effortless for me to lose the hundred pounds when I address the underlying causes. And that's my experience with the women I work with. So I just wanna incorporate both of our experiences for everyone listening. It can be effortless, sometimes it's harder, sometimes it's easier. But why not take advantage of a tool that could help you? So I'm for sure gonna try it. I'll share my experience. If anybody listening decides to try it, maybe you'll decide to do Karen's program. She's got amazing programs, which she's gonna share some in, in information on right now. But you share these amazing quotes with me, Karen, before we start started, and we haven't offered any. So I will, before we wrap up, I just wanna offer two of my favorites that you shared. So one is one of the most courageous things you can do is identify yourself. Know who you are, what you believe in, and where you want to go. Sheila Marie Bethel, I don't know who she is. Can you talk a little bit about this quote and what it means to you?
Speaker 3 (51:20):
What it means to me is, is that's been my life mission as really being who I truly am. And that's all the work that I've done has led me to that. And it's, I I, I want that for everybody. I do.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Amen. Yes. It be courageous. Identify yourself, know who you are, what you believe in and where you wanna go. And then Tony Robbins quote, the path to success is to take massive determined action. Action. You know, sometimes we women, we can just get stuck in our heads believing not true things. And you really deserve to have amazing health. You deserve to have a great sex life and great sexuality. You deserve to have great hair. Yes, you deserve to feel amazing in your skin. Look amazing in your skin if that matters to you. And do all the things that you want in life, right? Those dreams that you have we're given to you to fulfill. They're not some pipe dreams. So any last words you wanna share with everybody?
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, just off of, right off of what you just said there, like, don't settle for subpar. This is, like I said, this is the time in your life that could be the best time of your life. So go after it. Be courageous. Take massive action, but do what you, whatever it is that you have to do to be where you wanna be and look how you wanna look and that's fantastic. And embrace it and just, just don't be afraid and don't think that you have to suffer. I think poor, perimenopausal, menopausal when we have it in our head that there's gonna be some suffering or a lot of suffering. And we take this on like a badge of honor and it's like, no, we don't have to suffer and we can look fantastic and we can be fantastic and we can thrive. We don't have to suffer.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yes. So get about that business and you know, I think that's really part of loving yourself and maybe this is where we'll end. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
So karen martel.com. You can take my hormone quiz to find out, you know, which hormones could be stopping you from losing weight. It's just a quiz. So, but it's a great place to start and you'll get a little free meal plan from it. And besides that, you can find me on my podcast, the other side of weight loss, or we talk a ton about hormones and weight loss for women. We just hit 1 million downloads, so that's very exciting. So we've got 260 episodes on there. And then on social media, you can find me at Karen Martel hormones,
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Karen Martel hormones, and, and your podcast. Absolutely, definitely check it out. We'll have links to all of that in the show notes. Thank you so much for your journey, your wisdom and your passion for helping women. Thank you for being here, Karen.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
And thank you for joining me for another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kirin. So glad that you joined us today for this insightful discussion with maybe some things you hadn't thought about when it comes to your health, whether you have a weight problem or not. Looking at the deeper message of the malady or illness that you're experiencing can really help give you some insights that you can work towards healing and may just be the root cause that's keeping you stuck and you learned about a novel tool that you might want to consider using to help you. If you are struggling with weight loss, I'm gonna try it too and we'll share notes and see how it works, and I look forward to seeing you next week on another episode of The Hormone Prescription. Until then, peace, love, and Hormones. Y'all talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
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Tuesday Jun 06, 2023
Tuesday Jun 06, 2023
Don't miss out on the latest episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, where we delve into the importance of lifting weights for boosting your midlife metabolism. Our featured guest, Ashley Fillmore, is a leading expert in sustainable weight-loss who helps women balance their hormones, heal their metabolism, and achieve body composition changes that last a lifetime.
Ashley Fillmore is the Founder and President of Metabolic Fix™, a premium online coaching company that has helped thousands of women unlock the secret to better health and wellness. She is driven by her passion for helping women discover the life of health, happiness, and self-love they deserve.
In this episode you will learn:
- the importance of incorporating heavy lifting into your fitness routine for a robust midlife metabolism
- the science behind the benefits of weightlifting
- the transformative power of lifting heavy things and how you can effectively shape and transform your body, especially during the midlife stage.
Join us on The Hormone Prescription Podcast today and learn how to unlock the secret to a boosted midlife metabolism with Ashley Fillmore!
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everything you've ever wanted is sitting on the other side of beer. Ashley Fillmore. Stay tuned and I'll tell you how to do this thing that you haven't wanted to do for your health that you must do to make midlife marvelous.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones and our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself Again. As an OB G Y N I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue, now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much for joining me today as we're going to talk about facing a fear that many women have that really is essential for them to do this thing, to make midlife marvelous, to make their metabolism marvelous, to get the health, the brilliant health that you desire and deserve. Yeah, I gotta do this thing. And so many of you are afraid of it or you're avoiding it and not doing it, and you don't know that there's some fear under there, but a lot of times there is. So we're gonna talk about it today. My guest today is really a ninja at this. I mean, she's had her own health challenges that she's gonna share with you and she's found some really cool paths over the mountain that she's gonna guide you through and help you understand.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So I'm excited to dive into it with Ashley and to get you some information. She's gonna talk about your bravery. How do you get to the other side of fear and why your dreams might not be working? And that might be helpful to know because you have your dreams for a reason. They're meant to guide you to where you're supposed to be. So if you're not doing all the things like I like to say, we're gonna talk about all the things, but mostly this one thing that you're not doing, that you keep saying you're gonna do that's stopping you from experiencing the brilliant health that you deserve. So I'll tell you a little bit about Ashley and then we'll get started. She is a leading expert in sustainable weight loss and she helps women heal their metabolism, balance their hormones, and achieve body composition changes that lasts a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Woohoo. She is the founder and president of Metabolic Fix, a premium online coaching company that has helped thousands of women finally break free from chronic dieting for good and achieve long-term sustainable results using the metabolic fix method. She has a deep commitment to helping women better their lives and she strives to inspire others to embrace a life of health, happiness, and self-love. You deserve that self-love that we all deserve. She's a renowned keynote speaker, she's been on many podcasts. She has her own podcast, cheers to your success, and she has a Bachelor of Science and Exercise and nutrition and is a certified PT professional nutrition coach and health educator. Welcome Ashley to the Hormone Prescription. Hi.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Thank you so much for having me. I am so excited to talk with you today.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes. I think this is such an important topic. Why lifting everything is essential to your midlife metabolism. We women just don't get the weight lifting aspect and requirements of our health, especially as we age. And I find so many women don't lift enough weight, not heavy enough, or they don't do it at all. They're very focused on aerobics. So what helped you zero in on the fact that this is essential for us as we age?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, so I think it started back when I started my career and when I was going through school and studying hormones, metabolism and sustainable weight loss. One thing that popped up all the time throughout my research and my certifications was the importance of weight training and its impact on your metabolism as you age. So most of the women that I've helped from day one in my career, I would say, are in their forties, fifties, sixties. And a lot of the women wanna lose weight. They've done a lot of crash dieting, they've done a lot of cardio based exercises cuz that was really popular in the eighties, nineties, even seventies when they were growing up. And you know, they need different because what they're currently doing isn't working and not serving them well anymore. And so when I was studying the impact that weight training has on your metabolism, the research is really shocking.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And honestly for me it was just a no-brainer to say, okay, as women we need to become more comfortable in the gym. We have a space here. Your gym could be in a physical gym or even at home, but we need to become more comfortable with weight training. It's not just for men and it's not gonna make us bulky because that's the number one thing I hear from women is I don't wanna look like a man. We don't have the hormonal profile as you know, to look like a man. Even if we wanted to look like a man, we couldn't do it unless we were taking some extra hormones to help us look that way. And so really it started there in just recognizing the importance of building muscle mass and then backing it up from there and saying, okay, what do you have to do to build muscle mass? Does cardio help you build muscle mass? Does that 90 minute aerobics class build muscle mass? What's really gonna add more muscle mass on your frame? And what can you do to maintain the muscle mass that you have? When I started researching that, it connected all the dots. Weight training was the answer.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, it's so key. And I mean we, we start as women losing muscle mass at the age of 30 if we don't lose any, do anything to prevent it, like weight training, hormone balancing, all the things. But weights are really essential. And you know, a lot of women I think don't realize that they're resting metabolic rate, meaning the rate at which they burn calories when they're just sit sitting there looking beautiful and doing nothing else really goes down when they, you start losing muscle mass and, and this is that 3% weight gain that we start with at age 30 if we don't do anything to counteract it. So this is really essential. So if you're listening and you're not using resistance or weight training as a part of your program, you want to listen up and, and you're right, absolutely right Ashley, about we don't have the testosterone to sustain the amount of muscle mass that males have. We just don't have it. So unless you're taking high doses or doping with testosterone, you're not going to bulk up. So you're not gonna look like some of these women who are professional weight trainers and have these huge muscles. You're just gonna get definition. So where is important for someone? Where do they start? Say they're, they've never worked with weights, they've never listed lifted weights. Yeah. How do they even get started with that?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, and I think that it can be really overwhelming and it can be really intimidating. I've had so many women come to me and say, I'm, I'm terrified to go into the gym. I am so terrified. There's, you know, college kids, boys, you know, men, everyone's, you know, grunting and groaning and sweating on everything
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It may be 10 pounds, but it stopped there and it kind of made you feel like as a woman that's where you belonged. You weren't really welcomed or supposed to be out in the big gym with the guys and it can be intimidating as a beginner. And so I think that's simple as best. And honestly I would say number one is getting some professional help. Truly it is really worth the investment because you can go on Instagram or even Google it these days and sure, are you gonna be able to find a workout? Definitely we can find a workout within a couple of seconds. Doesn't mean that this workout's effective or where you should be starting. Absolutely not. And so I think it's important to, if you can have someone assist you and guide you if you're a beginner, the basics work. Well, compound movements, you don't need to do workout for hours a day, even 20 or 30 minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
There's research that shows the benefits in doing that. And then the secret is consistency. You have to consistently put in the work and be willing to progressively over time increase your weight in the gym, which is what we refer to as progressive overload. So not necessarily every week or every day go up on the weights you're lifting, but progressively over the course of several weeks and months, you should be able to say, okay, as I reflect back on my program, maybe you start off with five or 10 pounds, but over the course of maybe three, six weeks, 12 weeks, you go up to 10, 15, maybe even 20 pounds or more. I think that, you know, being, getting comfortable with lifting heavy weight and realizing heavy is relative to the individual. But keeping in mind as a beginner, you don't have to use fancy equipment, you don't need fancy machines, you actually don't even need a gym membership. You can simply buy some weights at home and follow a great program in the comfort of your home or going to a gym. But having a professional guide you, unless you are a certified personal trainer and know how to program effectively, can really be a game changer for that beginner getting started.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, I think that's such important information. I will say I have trained with weights in a variety of scenarios throughout my life and the best results I ever got one of was actually when I worked with the best personal trainer I've ever worked with. And she knew exactly what you needed for optimum weight and different muscle groups and for functional capacity, right? So I was trying to increase certain muscle groups in my body cuz I was having back problems when I was so obese and she was just amazing. And I've done it myself too, where I've had weights at home and even I still was left with those questions. Am I doing the right exercises? Am I using the right weights? So where would someone start, say they want to buy some weights and do it at home, and maybe this is something you go through in your programs and help guide people on, but if you could just give them a ballpark idea so they can see it in their minds of how easy this could be, where would they even start if they were gonna do this at home?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, no, that's a great question and, and you're right. One of the things I'll offer at the end of our show is even a trial to my rise workout program, which really does lay this out nicely for someone getting home or getting started and maybe wanting to work out at home or wanting to work out even in the gym. But if you're listening in and you're thinking, okay, I really want to get started, what do I need to buy today and what should I be doing? I would say if you're gonna work out at home and not join a gym membership, a bench, preferably an adjustable bench. So you can do incline dumbbell presses or flats, step ups, there's a lot of different things we can utilize that bench for, depending on your mobility and your flexibility. Certain movements like squats could be difficult to do free standing, so squatting to a bench can be very helpful to ensure that you're getting the proper range of motion so you can, that adjustable bench is perfect.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I would say depending on your strength level. One of the things I mentioned earlier on was that strength is very much so relative to the individual. So for example, you may feel like 15 or 20 pounds is heavy or, and I may think it's super light, but it just depends on our strength levels, how long we've been lifting weights, how much muscle mass we have. And so for you getting started, I would say get a range of weights, you don't need a ton. I would say get some light dumbbells for higher repetitions and working more isolated muscle groups. So maybe five pounds, maybe two and a half pounds, eight pounds, 10 pounds. But then I would also suggest investing in some heavier dumbbells. So you can do lower reps at a heavier weight, meaning maybe you're only gonna do five to eight reps, so that five or 10 pound set of dumbbells isn't gonna work anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
You're gonna need maybe 15, 20 plus pounds. So I think just having a variety of weights, maybe two lighter sets, two heavier sets, or one of each light and heavy. And I'm a big fan of bands as well. I do a lot of mini bands. We utilize them a lot for glute activation, which is something women struggle with, especially if you have a very sedentary job and you're not activating your glutes a lot, which you're not activating them when you're like in a, in a chair all day long. So we do a lot of band work as well. So you can typically google like mini band glute bands and there will be a variety of options that pop up. Those are very handy. You can add a lot of tension on your glutes and even for your lower back strength. And then if you can also maybe think about a stability ball.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So you could do some core exercises as well as some leg exercises when you're like lying on laying on a floor, there's certain exercises you could do with that stability ball. So that would be the equipment a bench adjustable dump bes heavy and light mini bands for the glutes. And if you can't afford it, a stability ball, that would be enough to get started. Sure, you can go on and invest in more advanced equipment for your home gym, but I think build start there, show yourself that you can do it consistently and then think about making a larger investment down the road if you wanna get a squat rack, barbells and things like that. And then for your workouts, I think starting off really basic, generally speaking, you wanna focus primarily on compound movements. And so compound movements would be your squats, lunges, pullups, pushups, bent over rows. And some of these terms may not even, you know, just if you haven't lifted weights, it may be hard to even know what I'm talking about. Bench pressing, those are compound movements. You're activating multiple muscle groups and you're gonna burn more calories by doing that and help rev up your metabolism. And so focusing the bulk of your training plan on that, and even a basic template of three by 10 to just get started with anywhere between, I would say six to 10 exercises is very effective for a beginner.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Awesome. Well that's like a comprehensive how to get started guy. Thank you Ashley, that was amazing. And I'm wondering if you can, because I know a lot of women are still are so hesitant to get started with this, can you share some stories of some women who have you've worked with in your program who maybe they were hesitant to and what their journey was like through starting with resistance training?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, I would love to, and if you're okay with it, I would love to share a little bit of my story and then I'll go into sharing. I have a couple of clients in mind that I would love to just briefly touch on. But I will say that I used to be very afraid. Interestingly, although my education and background is in personal training, nutrition coaching, specializing in sustainable weight loss. When I was, started my career literally right out of college, I was very young and didn't have a lot of experience at that time. You know, I was afraid to be honest. So truly lifting weights, I leaned more into cardio and I thought that that was the secret and I thought more was better. And so I would, I signed up for a gym membership, not at for personal training, but for myself. And I started taking, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the less mills classes, but I took body pump step aerobics, spin class, and I would spend three to four hours a day in the gym burning calories because I thought that was the secret to building the body that I wanted what ended up happening.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And combine that with crash dieting and eating about 1200 calories a day as a 20 year old, let's just say that's a perfect formula for disaster
Speaker 3 (18:26):
My hormones were in a really bad place. I lost my cycle. I felt really bad. I didn't feel good, I had horrible energy and I was spending so much of my day in the gym. I started to question, can I sustain this? I'm gonna be working full-time, I wanna have a family, I'm gonna have a household to maintain. There's no way. And so when I hit my dead end road, I had to stop doing everything that I was doing, including the cardio for hours, the undereating. And that's when I said, okay, I need to lean into what I know and what I'm literally, you know, learning through my own training and education. And that's when I started to walk at a steady low st, no, no steady state cardio, just at a leisure pace is what I would call it. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I started weight training three times per week and I took away all of the hit all of the extras and I went to basic functional strength training. And that's what I leaned into three times per week. I periodized my strength training programs to ensure that my body was going to change and I was gonna work my muscles in all of the necessary ways. So endurance training, hypertrophy training, which is muscle building and strength training. And I really leaned into progressive overload. My body started to transform and slowly but surely my hormones started to rebalance, my cycles returned, my energy came back. And instead of looking like the skinny slash, as my clients would even say at times frail version of myself mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Like, wow, well now I can lift more weights here, I could pick up seven grocery bags or 10 at one time even. And it was a really amazing experience. And so I really leaned into that and since then I've been now lifting weights for over a decade. And it's been amazing. I mean, it's helped me stay strong through my pregnancies, it's helped me stay, stay strong postpartum. And it's just for me now, it's the number one thing I lean into weight training and walking. Those two things are the, in my opinion, you can do the ex, you can do cardio once you have that foundation built. And similar stories from my clients, I will say a lot of women come to me with more of the cardio mindset where they need to do cardio to burn body fat. And again, I personally have nothing against cardio.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
When you are utilizing it correctly and you have a strong foundation built for strength training, if you are a woman perimenopause or menopause, in my opinion, weight training needs to be a part of your program. You cannot only be doing cardio and expect to sustain your muscle tissue. And as you even mentioned, when your muscle tissue decreases, your metabolic rate also decreases. So you start to see why it becomes so easy to gain weight. And so my client's very similar. Cardio was all that they did. Dieting, excessive, you know, just chronically dieting all the time. And for them, I will say the biggest thing that they realized is that, wow, this is a lot easier than I realized. I'm actually falling in love with weight training and the feeling that I get from doing it. I'm strong, I'm capable. I also have a place here and wow, I wanted to lose inches off my waist.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Here's how I do it. I wanted my glutes to look rounder and nicer. This is the secret to doing that. And so you start to see that as well. And so I would say for them, their competence, their body composition transforms. I'll see clients lose anywhere from 10 to 20 inches within a course of even three to 12 months depending on that client and the health of their metabolism when we got started. But could you imagine 20, and it sounds like you've had an amazing transformation yourself, but 20 inches off of your frame, that is significant fat loss.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It is. I've even noticed in times where maybe I don't have access and I don't take the time to do weights for a while, and then I enter them back into my program, all of a sudden within a couple weeks, my clothes are all too big. And it really does
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Right? That's right. You can and you can. And that's where you can focus on body recomposition. Not so much losing scale weight, it's more about maybe maintaining your current weight and just working on your muscle to body fat ratio. So bumping up that muscle mass, decreasing that body fat slowly. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Amazing. Wow. That is amazing. At that age 17 body weight pull-ups. Whoa, shout out. That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Can we, that's amazing. Can we also talk about body fat percentage? Because body composition is something that I love to use with people. I love the scales that give that information. And actually a little story about that. So after I lost the hundred pounds and had this transformation, I got, so I was so zealous about working out and weights and exercise and I said, oh, I wanna lower my body fat to 10%. So I was working with this trainer at the time and he looked at me like I was crazy and he said, I might have to kill you to get your body fat to 10%. And I didn't really understand, even though I had had, I had two sisters who did bikini competitions and they would go through their whole eating program and weight program before their competitions. And I watched them and it looked a little extreme, but I thought, oh, I can do that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And so I said that to him, he's like, that might just, I might have to kill you to do that. And then he explained to me what I was gonna have to do and I promptly decided, no, I don't want 10% body fat
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah. So you're right, 10% body fat. I'm happy you had a great trainer because that was really great advice. It would be, it's not impossible. A lot of times when you see maybe like your sisters when they were doing the bikini competitions or the body builders as women, a lot of them will even be under 10% body fat. But as you know with hormones, it is very, very difficult even eating in a deficit and working out six, seven days a week to get your body fat that low. And for us, it has a lot to do with our sex hormones, your estrogen levels. And generally when we start to lose body fat to that level, which is something I did, which was also why I lost my cycle. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
And so for me, when my fat storage went down, it's really interesting. On my hormonal testing, it very much so showed my estrogen levels were way below normal ranges. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
If you're thinking about, Hey, I just wanna get down to 15% body fat or 18% body fat, that's very much so in the athletic range, right? I would say a lot of my clients in their forties and fifties, and I've worked with hundreds of women over the last 17 plus years I've been doing this, most of them are at their healthiest when their body fat is within the 20% range, varying from mid to low twenties, which again, more people probably vary more to mid twenties, a little, you know, 24, 20 5%, that's where they're seeing their bodies start to change. When they get to the lower twenties, that's when they're seeing a lot of definition sculpted shoulders, AB muscles start to come out. I would say teens, you're getting into more, you know, athletic performance based body composition. And then as you probably know below that, you're getting into competition, stage it or you know, stage ready as they like to call it.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And I don't think it's necessary for women to be that low in body fat percentage. I honestly think having some body fat's healthy, your hormones need it. I think that as a woman, you look nice with personally. Now everybody's opinion's different, but there's nothing wrong with a healthy amount of body fat. I know I worked really hard to get my body fat back up because I didn't like the way that I felt when it was that low. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So we only worked one-on-one with clients. We weren't like a big commercial gym where you could come and go as you please. There were group fitness classes. This was only appointment based. It was myself and the owner of the gym. And then he even built out a team a little bit larger as his business grew. And so we would do body fat analysis with caliper's on our clients. So as you know, there's room for error with all of these mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I would have clients that I've been working with for let's say five or six years, measuring them every week or every other week at times, they would go through phases where they would miss a lot of workouts, they wouldn't eat correctly and they would come in, their scale weight would be up or the same and their body fat percentage would not be any lower. And then when we looked at their muscle ratio, muscle mass ratio, it wasn't any lower. And so, you know, sometimes when people would lean into the measurements, we would see different all kinds of data. At times we would see people's weight lower, but their body fat percentage higher. So that would really get the client, they would say, oh, well why is my weight lower? But my body fat percentage in muscle math, my body fat percentage is not lower and my muscle ratio is still not in a great place. And a lot of that turns to the type of training you're doing and the way that you're eating. And the point that I wanna make is that a low number on the scale doesn't always mean that you're losing body fat and building muscle mass,
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Weighing the same or even gaining a little bit of weight when you're lifting weights consistently and dialing in your nutrition doesn't always mean that you're gaining body fat. And a lot of women think that it's like, oh, the scale's up a pound or two mm, I've gained a bunch of weight. And I'm like, no, no, no, hold on. Let's really assess the data. Doesn't mean that you've gained body fat just because the weight is up a pound or two.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes. Wow. This is all such important information and I'm so happy to really have you on the show and dive into this topic because it's super important. And I will say it hands down, is one of the top five things that women miss over 40 in balancing their hormones, boosting their metabolism is a weight training y'all. So do it. Just do it right. Like Nike says, just do it. Just get started. Do it and perfectly do it today, do it and get started. As always, I love, I love a good quote. And Ashley, you shared some great ones. So I wanna dive into something else that's super important, which is talking about how do you achieve anything in your life a dream. So, well, why might you wanna have resistance training or weights in your program, in your health program? Because you want brilliant health, right?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Because you wanna feel amazing at 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 beyond. You wanna live a long life, you wanna feel great, you wanna have great sex, you wanna look great, you wanna function great, you wanna be healthy, you don't wanna be bogged down by disease. So those are dreams because the only reason we have time on this planet is because we have a body. And when this body expires, which I, I consider your first home, your time is done and then you get that date on the second side, half other half of your tombstone, right? You get a beginning date, a dash and an end date. So it's all about dreams. What is the dream for your life? And that's why I was talking to my women in my challenge about their why. It's not what you want, it's why you want it, that will help you get there. And so you share this, dreams don't work unless you do. And I absolutely love that. Is that something that you say regularly and what does it mean to you?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yes, I say that all the time because it's a reminder. It also is a great reminder to help you take radical responsibility. And it gives you the power to know that you are in control of your life and the choices you make today can make a positive impact on your life or a negative impact on your life. And I noticed some that can make you feel scared or afraid to even go there. But truly for me it was very empowering to say, wow, if I want this, I have to do the work. There's no one else in my life, not my husband, not my children, not my friends that can do this for me, but I have to be the one to want it. And if I want it, I can make this happen. And truly believing that is a part of this. And I think this goes back to the confidence you have within yourself and being able to do hard things and walk into the gym or invest in help or start a new program or literally break down every thought that you had about how you should reach your goals, how you should heal your hormones and go into something new to say, you know what?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Those things aren't working. I'm going to do what I need to do so I can reach my goal. Because dreams don't work unless you do. And it comes down to you being the one to take the action. And I learned that very early in my life. And it serves me not only in my professional career but personally just as a woman. Because like you said, even being an expert in leading programs and helping women, we have to also feel great to be able to show up like this and tell other women what to do and how to do it. And so I always remind myself, hey, you need to make sure that you're taking care of yourself. So whatever dreams and goals you have, identifying them, that's just the start. The next part is mapping out a plan. You don't have to have it all figured out, but you just need to know the next thing, the next step. That's it. What's the next thing you're gonna do today after listening to this podcast? What's one thing you can do after this show ends to help get you one step closer to your dream and goal?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
One thing, right? Every journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step. But what's stopping most of us gets to this other quote, you shared fear, right?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah. Everything you've ever wanted is setting on the other side of fear. What if it doesn't work? What if? What if I fail myself again? What if right? There's with fear, there's always that. What if big bolded letters that's stopping us in our tracks, but like you said, we get one opportunity, one life, one chance, one body. Sometimes you have to go before you're ready cuz if you're waiting for the fear to go away, it may never go away.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah. So how do you, so we're afraid we're gonna lose time, money, it's not gonna work. We're gonna gonna be able to do it. What if I do it wrong? Like we have a million fears and so we sit there and we do nothing and we have this dream and the years go on and our health deteriorates. I call it circling the drain. That's how I felt, right? Every day I would get up, it would be something different. And I'm like, oh my gosh, if I'm this bad now in my forties, where am I gonna be in another 10 years, another 20 years? How have you navigated fear in your life and with your clients? How do you suggest that people start to navigate around fear or work with it so that they can work on their dreams and actually achieve what they want in their life?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yes, I do. I talk about this a lot with my clients. I talk about this a lot on my podcast. And the biggest thing I would say is that there's also nothing wrong with doing a little bit of homework. I'm never telling clients or people to just literally jump blindfolded and not have any idea. I think we all should do a little bit of homework. You know, being in this space, I will say that not every coach is the same. Not every profe per you know, professional, you think, oh well, you know, a nutrition coach, coach, a nutritionist, a personal trainer, no, not everyone is the same. I think it's worth your time listening in. One of the number one fears is what if this doesn't work? What if the person doesn't know what they're doing? Do your homework. I'm always a big fan of, go to my website, check out testimonials, ask me questions, let's hop on a call.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Let's talk if we need to, let me help you work through some of your concerns. And then that gives you more information, which can also help you overcome fear information and real facts. Not just stewing on the fears and you don't really know, is that a fact or is that an emotion? And so for me, one of the things I tell ladies is, please do your homework before you maybe make that big investment or do that scary coaching program. Make sure that you feel comfortable with the person you're investing with. But even taking it back a step, you know, fear is good. It's not a bad thing, it's our mm-hmm
Speaker 3 (39:39):
It serves us in a sense of, hey, be aware of the fear. Do your homework. You know, maybe don't, don't be afraid to ask questions, but don't let it stall you out. Especially when it comes to reaching your goals and your dreams. And I'll say, you know, when I was 15 years old, my mom suddenly passed away and I was on my own. I didn't have a dad, I didn't have a family. So for me, facing fear was something I had to face head on. I had no other opportunity or choice. It was either you go ahead, you take responsibility, you know the next step and that's it. And then you'll figure the rest out as you go. Or you could stay here and do nothing. But when you are going through your life, so if you're listening in, weighing those options out, what if you stay here?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
What does that mean for you? That means your health isn't gonna get any better. That means your quality of life isn't gonna get better. Like you said, if you're already in your forties and you're feeling that type of way, what does that mean for your fifties and your sixties or even six months from now? What does that impact have on your, your professional life, your intimacy with your partner, your, your relationship with your children? What's the cost of all of that? So literally when fear hits you think about those things. And then on the other side of fear, what if you take action? What's gonna happen then? So weigh out the pros and the cons. Every time in my life, the pros have always outweighed the if I stay here scenarios. And so for me and my clients, that's one of the things I've always leaned into is that's how you get over those fears is you lay it out and you work through that. And I would say most people listening in would say that taking that chance is worth it compared to staying where they are. When they truly walk through that, well what if I stay here? What does this mean for my health? What does this mean for my intimacy? What does this mean with my co for my professional life? What's gonna happen? It's not just gonna magically get better on its own, I'm gonna have to do things differently.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
So true, your health does not magically get better on its own. It doesn't magically get better cuz you take a medication to suppress a symptom, it gets better when you look at the underlying causes and address them, which is what we're talking about. I love this other quote that you shared. You're braver than you believe and stronger than you seem and smarter than you think. And if you're hearing those words, that's you were talking about. And we'll close out with that if you wanna talk a little bit about that, Ashley, and then I'm gonna have you share all the wonderful places that everyone can find you and interact with you. But yeah, I love that you're braver than you believe and stronger than you seem and smarter than you
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Think. Yeah, and that's something that I as just kind of leading into what I finished talking about, that's something that I had to remind myself at a very young age. And I allowed that to stick with me through all of the phases of life that I went through, through, you know, starting my own company, healing my own body and metabolism, starting a family, moving to a new state. All of the adventures in life that we go through. And I think that's really true. And when you're listening into this, even if things didn't work for you before, it doesn't mean that you're broken. It doesn't mean that things can't work for you. Now think about my client that's 77 years old almost, and in the gym and working out lifting weights four days a week and doing 17 pull-ups and you know, lifting heavy dumbbells for herself and barbell dead lifts and all of the things.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You have to believe in yourself and you have to know that you can do this, you can do this. And I think your story is also a great testimony to say, Hey, in my forties, this is when I literally transformed my life and my health. And so just don't give up that hope. It's never too late to start. You can start now. I don't care if you're 50, 60 or whatever age you may be, you can get started now and you know, just, you've gotta believe that you can do this. And that's what I love about the that quote.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yes, believe, go lift heavy things, make your dreams happen and believe. Thank you so much, Ashley, for joining us today and sharing your very, actually, very powerful story, your journey, what you offer for women, your dedication to women's health. Ashley has some an e cookbook she's going to offer to you for free and a meal plan and a free trial of her program. So tell everyone about all the freebies you have for them. We'll have all the links in the show notes and then where they can connect with you online and find all your things.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah. So one of the things I would love to gift your audience with is I have a great e cookbook and meal plan. It's not customized to the individual because I do believe we all need some level of customization when it comes to amounts of food we consume and what we consume on a daily basis. But if you're looking for a great template of what does it look like to eat for strength training, metabolic health, and just really wanting and even weight loss, what is, what is a sample week or meal plan look like and what types of foods can you eat and lose weight? This is a really great resource for you. It's an e cookbook. You'll download it immediately, you'll get access to it immediately and you can have it forever. It's a free gift, tons of recipes, all gluten-free recipes, all healthy protein-based, lots of different options.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm a mom, so they are also kid-friendly and easy to make because I don't have a lot of time to be in the kitchen right now. And then the Trial to the Rise program. So RI the Rise program is my workout membership, and with this program, you get access to my workout app within my workout app. Every four weeks you get a brand new program. All of the things I highlighted throughout our podcast, periodized strength training, progressive overload that's taking place within this program. Also, exercise demos are right there, so you don't have to, as I was listing out all of the names, I was getting a little worried about that person that maybe is thinking, I have no idea what she's talking about. A squat, a deadlift, a bench press. Well, my app will give you real-time demos, 10 seconds or less. You look at everything on your phone, there's no confusion. The workouts are compatible for at home or the gym. It's something that I love. I actually created this really affordable program for women that wanted to get in the gym or work out at home, have a plan that was affordable and not have to think about or worry about their workouts, but know that a professional with real experience is taken care of so your audience can have a free trial to that as well.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Nice. Thank you so much for all those valuable resources. I hope if you're listening, you will take advantage of what Ashley is offering and get started. Go lift heavy things, make midlife marvelous, boost your metabolism and get your first house, your body in order so that it can serve you with the brilliant health that you deserve. Thank you so much for being here today and sharing all this valuable information. Ashley,
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Thank you so much for having me on your show,
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And thank you for listening to another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kien. Hopefully you've learned something today that you can take action on and put in place in your life to start moving towards the brilliant health that you deserve. I thank you for joining us, and I will see you again for another episode next week. Until then, peace, love, and hormones y'all. Thank you so much for listening. I know that incredible
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Vitality occurs for women over 40 when we learn to speak hormone and balance these vital regulators to create the health and the life that we deserve. If you're enjoying this podcast, I'd love it if you'd give me a review and subscribe. It really does help this podcast out so much. You can visit the hormone prescription.com where we have some free gifts for you, and you can sign up to have a hormone evaluation with me on the podcast to gain clarity into your personal situation. Until next time, remember, take small steps each day to balance your hormones and watch the wonderful changes in your health that begin to unfold for you. Talk to you soon.
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Tuesday May 30, 2023
Using Human Design To Balance Your Hormones & Cultivate Self-love
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Welcome to the latest episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast where we explore the amazing world of Human Design, and how it can help you achieve hormonal balance and cultivate self-love! Our special guest today is Nanxi Chen, a Human Design expert who shares her insights on this holistic approach to well-being, and her own journey towards self-awareness and wellness.
Human Design is a unique system that combines elements of astrology, the I Ching, the Kabbalah, and the Chakra system to give you an intricate roadmap into your true self. By understanding your individual Human Design, you'll be able to unlock the key to living in harmony with your body and mind, thereby achieving hormone balance and increased self-love.
In this insightful episode, Nanxi shares her personal experience with using Human Design to improve her hormone health and overall wellness. She explains how her journey of self-discovery began with exploring her own Human Design chart, which led her to create a more holistic and self-aware approach to managing her hormones.
As we dive deeper into the conversation, Nanxi shares some remarkable insights, such as the importance of self-awareness in self-healing. Understanding the intricacies of your Human Design can bring forth a newfound awareness and appreciation of your body's needs and signals, empowering you to make more informed decisions for your well-being.
Along the way, we also get to hear some fascinating anecdotes from Nanxi, including how the knowledge of her specific Human Design played a crucial role in her everyday life – from managing stress to creating harmonious relationships and prioritizing self-care.
Are you ready to explore Human Design and start your own journey to better health and self-love? Don't miss out on this life-changing episode!
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Saturday May 27, 2023
Saturday May 27, 2023
Welcome back to another episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast! Today, we're diving into the world of human design, hormones, and how these two intertwine to impact your overall well-being.
We're delighted to have the brilliant Kate Vazquez on our show today! Kate is a Physician Assistant, Functional Medicine Practitioner, Mindset Coach, and the founder of Radiant by Design. She's also the author of the empowering book, Estrogen Is A B*tch, and the creator of the transformative program, Already Enough.
In this episode, Kate shares her unique approach to hormone balancing that combines functional medicine, human design, and nervous system regulation. She discusses her experiences with estrogen management and enlightens us on the connections between human design and our hormones.
Main Themes Covered:
- Understanding human design and its role in individual health
- The role of estrogen management in hormonal balance
- How Kate's unique approach helps women overcome anxiety, stress, and imbalances
- Learning to embrace our radiant selves by tapping into the power of human design
Episode Highlights:
- Introducing Kate Vazquez, our inspiring guest for today's episode
The story behind Kate's journey into the world of functional medicine and human design - An overview of human design and how it can transform our understanding of ourselves and our health
- The crucial role of estrogen management in hormonal balance and overall well-being
- Kate's unique approach to healing, blending functional medicine, human design, and nervous system regulation
- Real-life stories of how Kate's method has empowered women to overcome anxiety, stress, and hormonal imbalances
- Embracing our radiant selves and the power of Already Enough
- Call to action and where to find more from Kate Vazquez
Speaker 1 (00:00):
As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others - Maryanne Williamson, In this episode hears from Kate Vasquez, how discovering human design helped her health and helped her liberate herself from her own fear.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So the big question is, how do women over 40 like us, keep weight off, have great energy, balance our hormones and our moods, feel sexy and confident, and master midlife? If you're like most of us, you are not getting the answers you need and remain confused and pretty hopeless to ever feel like yourself again. As an O B G Y N, I had to discover for myself the truth about what creates a rock solid metabolism, lasting weight loss, and supercharged energy after 40, in order to lose a hundred pounds and fix my fatigue, now I'm on a mission. This podcast is designed to share the natural tools you need for impactful results and to give you clarity on the answers to your midlife metabolism challenges. Join me for tangible, natural strategies to crush the hormone imbalances you are facing and help you get unstuck from the sidelines of life. My name is Dr. Kyrin Dunston. Welcome to the Hormone Prescription Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Hi everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much for joining me today. Really excited to share my guest with you today, Kate Vazquez. I'll tell you a little bit about her. I met Kate at a mastermind Halloween party with JJ Virgin a year or two ago, and I was really drawn to her and this is the first time I've really had a chance to talk, speak at depth with her. And we discovered that we have so much in common about how we view women's health and energetics and nervous system function and all the things as I like to say. So we really are kindred souls and super excited to have you here to hear this discussion because it contains some vital information for your health that you're not going to hear everywhere else. Starting with, we're gonna talk about something called human design, which isn't something I've talked about on the podcast, but really has been pivotal in me creating the health that I'm enjoying and really could help you as well.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So I'm introducing it today and then actually next week my human design analyst is gonna come on the podcast and really talk nuts and bolts about what human design is and why and how it impacts your health and how you can use it to help improve your health too. But today we are talking with Kate and we're gonna give you actually a really close, upfront look at how human design has helped both of us transform our health. She has some beautiful quotes to share with you. This one from Maryanne Williamson that I stated in the teaser is beautiful. We talked about that. We talk about Shakespeare and his view on what makes things good or bad. We have a great quote from Peter that people in circumstances are revealing where you're not free. And so I'm gonna invite you to listen to this episode and really take it in and bathe in the energy of it and start to notice where you are not free.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Where are you not allowing yourself to create the health that you deserve that's possible for you? What could be some of the blocks in your way? Maybe listening to some of Kate's story will help you to start to identify that and listening to the information. So I'll tell you a little bit about Kate and then we'll get started. Kate is a physician, assistant functional medicine practitioner and mindset coach. She's the founder of Radiant By Design. She is the author of Estrogen, is a and Creator of Enough, already Enough. She blends functional medicine, human design, and nervous system regulation for a unique approach that cultivates a deeper healing of the mind, body, and spirit. She helps women overcome anxiety, stress, and imbalances in their body to embrace the radiance of who they truly are. So we are gonna dive into it with Kate now. Welcome Kate to the Hormone Prescription.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Hi Dr. Kyrin. Thank you so much. I'm just so honored and blessed to be here and I'm just really excited for our conversation today. I am too, because you love the same things. I love you, love hormones, you love working with women, you love nervous system regulation and you love human design. These are all things I'm passionate about too and I'm wondering if you can share with everyone your journey towards discovering all these very unique tools, right? Functional medicine, root cause resolution is not the standard and it's not common. How did you discover that? How did you discover that nervous system regulation was important? How did you discover human design and really how it's impacted your health personally and the women that you work with? So if you could share that, that would be awesome. Absolutely. My story really began back in, in 2016.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I was working as a physician assistant at the time in an, in an urgent care and just newly, newly married with my husband. And at the time I, I looked like I was happy on the outside, but deep down inside I was really struggling. I was just stressed out, anxious. I had about six to eight migraines a month, a lot of digestive issues, constipation, blo, I was even taking birth control just to keep my skin clear. And as a newly married couple, it was very challenging that first year cause we were still learning a lot about each other's. Like you go from like thinking about yourself to now you have to think about the other person. Plus I realized I was, I was just stuffing all my emotions down. Like I was stressed out at work and I'd come home and then I would sometimes vent it to my husband, but then we'd end up in, in arguments and get triggered and yeah, it was, it was a lot that was happening at that time and it just got to a point where things were really escalating to the point where I remember the stay very clearly in 2016 where I was sitting, my husband and I were sitting on his old ugly leather bran couch, which is all we had at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I remember him looking at me and just with so much pain and just sadness in his eyes and saying, I don't know how much longer I keep doing this. And when he said that, it just tore me apart. Like I was so heartbroken to hear him say that. Cause I'm like, no, this can't be happening. This is my soulmate and
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And so my husband at the time, he sent me off to, to Tony Robbins, at least the power within. And that's when I really learned a lot about mindset and personal development and learned about the limiting belief that I had, which was, I'm not enough. That was basically like running my life and was creating a lot of stress and anxiety at the time. And within a couple years I discovered functional medicine. So I dove into that. And at the same time I was starting my certification at, with the I Institute for Functional Medicine. I also started my own business, my own practice, radiant Health at the time. Because I realized there was definitely a better way, a different way to not only heal myself, but to help other people. I set out to heal my own issues improved, you know, my gut issues healed.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
My, my gut, I balance out my hormones coming off birth control or cortisol. But at the time I still, even though I physically started to feel better, I still mentally, emotionally wasn't feeling my best. I still was experiencing anxiety and also having migraines at the time. And so, you know, as a entrepreneur and business owner, I had jumped into a couple masterminds over the last couple years and, you know, being in a part of those groups, you get a lot of like strategies thrown at you and it's like you're, you're told to just like, go, go, go and do, do, do. And so I was doing a lot of these things to like really build and grow the business so I can impact more people and serve more people. But at the time I just, I was so burnt out, I was exhausted and I wasn't even enjoying what I was doing anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I felt like I was back at the urgent care where I'm like, I became a PA and now I'm like not happy. And now I'm like, I started my own business and now I'm not having, like, what is going on? You know? So I started learning about nervous system regulation and just diving into the subconscious mind. And I was doing yoga and meditation at the time and doing all the right things, you know, eating healthy exercise, taking supplements, but it just, it wasn't enough. And so diving into nervous system regulation into the subconscious mind to really uncover like my fears and beliefs and conditioning really helped me to do that. But I think the most pivotal change, the shift that I had was learning about human design. And I don't remember how I came across it. I think it was like something on Instagram
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I took the little, the quiz or filled out my information and I discovered I was a projector. And when I discovered I was a projector, I was like, oh, what does this, what does this mean? And I realized like as a projector, they're like, I'm here to guide. I'm not here to be constantly doing, to, to be generating or to be initiating things. And that really explained a lot for me, explained a lot as I looked back over my life. Like I had been conditioned to be a certain way and that way just didn't feel genuine, didn't feel authentic to who I was. So it's like when I discovered human design discovered I was projecting this is how I was supposed to live my life, it finally gave me permission to be who I am. To be me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And if you're listening and you've never heard of human design, you're probably going, what, what is this? What do you mean permission to be me? So can you talk a little bit about what human design is and why someone might want to know their design and how it might help them? What, what is it basically like your energetic blueprint,
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And so I started changing, changing how I saw clients. Like instead of working from nine to five, now I work from 10 to four. And in between my clients I make sure I schedule time in to take, to take breaks to rest, especially when I start to feel my energy dip. Because if my energy dips then I can't show up as my best self and help guide my clients. So I've been more in tune with that. But also just winding down before bedtime has been a big, big game changer for me because I used to wake up and just go, go go from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed and I realized that was impacting my sleep. And when my sleeps impacted, that impacts my energy and that impacts my health. So, so really understanding your design can help you understand, okay, how do I show up?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But also it can improve your relationship with others. Cuz understanding my design and my husband's design, he's a manifestor. He's go, go, go, I'm not
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And so it's really changed a lot for me as my like who living life as who I am, but also how to better serve my clients and hold that capacity, you know? But also improving my relationship with my husband as well and, and my health. So right. And so, and and in human design there there are only four energy centers. And so something that I want everyone listening to just think about and I am doing an interview later today with my human design analyst, Nancy. So we're gonna really get into the nuts and bolts of what is human design and how it impacts your health and how you might wanna know your design. And it that might help inform you about choices you might want to make that are different from the ones you're making regarding your health. So if, if you're a non-energy type or even if you are an energy type, right?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Generators aren't either, they're also not meant to go out and make stuff happen. They're meant to respond to what comes to them. And if you don't realize that you could expend a lot of energy trying to make things happen. And so if you're operating in a manner that's contrary to your design, basically you're going to have issues. And a lot of times those issues will show up as health problems. So how do you integrate, well first I'm just curious, so what type of projector are you
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, it's my design so now I understand it, I can accept it and I can just go, yeah, it's just who I am. So ta talk a little bit about your design. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm five one projector as well, but my authority is splenic, so I'm very, very intuitive and
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And yeah, growing up, yeah, the emotional types were told or yeah, a lot of people are just wondering like, why are these people so emotional? Like there's something wrong with them when in fact there's nothing wrong with you at all. That's just, that's normal. It's normal. And I think it's beautiful to be able to experience the, the variety of emotions. And that's another thing like I learned like we, we look at emotions as certain things are, emotions are are bad, but it's like no emotions are just, you know, our body processing information and a lot of times we don't allow those emotions to pass. And if we stuff them down, they get suppressed, repressed, that's when they start to effects the body and put us into yes sympathetic state. So for you recognizing your emotional wave and knowing like, okay, I'm experiencing this wave right now not to make a decision because if I make a decision, it's probably not gonna be the best decision for me.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So once you come out of that wave, now you have more clarity as what is best for you, what person's best for you, what is your next step, what is your next move? What is the best, you know, decision? For me, it's just really tuning in cuz my, my intuition comes very quick. It's a very
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So I'm very, very sensitive to smells. And like the other day my husband went and got his hair cut and he told the guy don't spray his hair and the guy forgotten he sprayed these toxic chemicals all over his hair. And then I hop into the car cuz we were gonna go off and run errands together and I couldn't, I couldn't handle the smell
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So I think it's, it's a beautiful thing to have and understand like what your authority is cuz it's, it's, it's meant to, to protect you, you know, and help you when it comes to making the best decision for you, like in, in every area of your life. Yes. You know, and as you mentioned it, I have splenic definition also and I have that, that toxin radar smell also. So I have the spleen, but I am emotionally emotional authority. And so how do you incorporate that into the work you do with people? How does it help inform how you advise people knowing their human design type? Yeah, that is such a great question. I, I love learning about each person because when someone's coming to me and they're experiencing a lot of stress, just helping them to see like, are they living in alignment with who they are?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Because if they're not, that's gonna generate a lot of stress. That's gonna be the reason why they're experiencing a lot of anxiety or depression. Why they have a lot of imbalances in their, with their hormones, with their adrenals, with their gut, with their thyroid. And so having that understanding, you know, we can start pulling, pulling apart like who's their not self. Cuz in human design there's that not self theme, right? And that's the theme that's been, or the self that's been conditioned from society. So really pulling out these pieces and that's where this nervous system regulation and subconscious work comes into play too, is just understanding like what are the thoughts they have and what are their beliefs and what are the patterns and conditioning that's not who they are. So now when they build that level awareness, now we can move them into embodying who they really are.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But also, yeah, taking the concepts the core concepts and like understanding their strategy and understanding their authority and how they're gonna show up in their life. Because that's what made the biggest difference for me is like, yeah, other people can make decisions on the go. Like I believe it's manifested or manifesting generators can decide very, very quickly. But sometimes, yeah, for me I just, I have to tune into my intuition if my intuition doesn't feel right, you know, even though it may feel right for someone else, I have to listen to that cuz it's, it's always guiding me. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, I think that's key. And I, I'm just wondering cuz people probably come to you because you know, I know in functional medicine probably 80% of our clients are women over 40 because we suffer more than anyone with our health cuz we've got those, you know, wireless moving hormones that are changing and we've just got so many obstacles to navigate as we age. And one thing that I try to help all my clients understand is that it's not just about your physical health. You know, some people say, just tell me the supplements I need to take. Tell me the diet I need to eat, tell me the exercises I need to do. I don't wanna change anything in my life. Kirin, I just want you to tell me those things so I can plug them in and be fine. And I really step back and say, yeah, it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's how you're living your life, how you're showing up, how you're making decisions, how you're setting boundaries are not. So do you find that most people are open and receptive to hearing this information? Or what, what is their reaction and how do you navigate it if people say, yeah, I don't wanna know any thing about that Kate
Speaker 1 (22:34):
But for the most part, everyone that has worked with me, you know, is really open into diving more cuz they understand that yeah, it's not necessarily just the physical healing that ne needs to happen. It it, there's a, there's a deeper healing that needs to happen as well. The mental, the emotional piece. And so the clients that work with me, they, they really want to get to the bottom and are open and and willing to do whatever it takes, even if it means diving into what's happening with the subconscious mind and helping them to regulate their nervous system and doing things a little bit differently than they've done before. Because obviously, you know, what they've done before wasn't working. And so yeah, they're coming to me to, to get that guidance and see things. And that's another thing as a productor, we see things from a different perspective, these little tweaks, these little changes, little things that they can do that they can add that's going to Yeah, give them profound effects in their life.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Right? Yes. I mean that's something I bet that you've been doing this your whole life and you didn't realize that this was a special gift that you've been given
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Joe Dispenza likes to say
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And then it's also slowing down the signals to our reproductive organs. So there goes the hormonal issues,
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Instead, we just immediately react because of the conditioning. You know, growing up my, I love my mom, but she was all, she was just stressed out, anxious all the time, constantly reacting
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I'm like, what is going on
Speaker 1 (27:46):
And that's definitely the where I used to live, you know, and, and that needing to be perfect and everything that I did. But there's also the flight where when people are stressed out, they will distract themselves from feeling a certain way. And so they'll use like food or alcohol or even scrolling on social media, different things like that just to distract them from feeling a certain way. And then there's that freeze response where they just want to completely, like, they're, they're paralyzed, they're frozen, they completely avoid conflict, you know, when they're under stress. And then there's that font type where they go into people pleasing and people that you know, excessively apologize. And there's a statement I I once read as like, you know, over apologizing is basically saying, sorry for just like existing. And I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1 (28:35):
You know? But we tend to over apologize, you know, for so many things, you know, for whatever reason, you know, because we, we feel like we're being a burden. We're we're being too much, you know? But at the end of the day it's like, no, that's that fond stress response. So starting to recognize the patterns can help us start to, to regulate our nervous system and recognize like when I respond to stress, is this a healthy response or is it an unhealthy response? And, and how it's affecting our body. But you know, going back to the emotions, you know, I recognize like when we are experiencing, you know, anxiety and depression and or feeling so in, in human design, I find it fascinating cuz when we're in our not self being, so for example, generators will experience a lot of frustration. Manifestors will experience anger, projectors will experience a lot of bitterness, resentment, reflectors, disappointment.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And that's because we're in that sympathetic state. Because we're not operating in alignment with our design. We're not operating as who we are. And so we're gonna experience these what I call low vibrating emotions, which is our sympathetic state. But if we can switch out of that, you know, into a parasympathetic state, now we're gonna experience more love, more happiness, more joy, more peace, more fulfillment. And so the key is to like, okay, how can we get back to that state and experience more of those emotions? Cuz we're, and we are experiencing more of those emotions. We know that we're in that parasympathetic state which then supports our health long term. That's is the state that's gonna support healing. Cause we can't really support our healing if we're still stuck in that sympathetic state. Yes. So getting that switched back from paras, from sympathetic to parasympathetic is key.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'm wondering if you might share just one strategy that people might try to help regulate. Like say they're listening and they're noticing like you did. Oh yeah. My abdominal muscles will try, oh, I'm shallow breathing and woo. Yeah, I'm probably in sympathetic state. So one thing that they might try to just dial that down and step into that parasympathetic state. Yeah. More fully. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know things that are happening with people around us. And so I remember just closing my eyes and taking deep breaths and just telling my body, relax, release. And that's another word, release release. Cause sometimes we're holding onto things and so just saying that and saying, it's okay, I'm safe, I'm okay. You know, can really bring that body back into that, that parasympathetic state. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Right. I wanna do it perfect Lee. And, and then I hold my breath. Mm-Hmm
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So yeah, I love that quote. And it's, it's a quote I use with my clients often to help them recognize, like, especially when they get triggered and something's bothering them or if you're feeling resistance, it's like, okay, where are you not free right now? Like it has nothing to do with the other person because yeah, the other person may be reacting because they have stuff that you know is going on inside of them. It's just been a really, really powerful quote for me. It is super powerful. I'm gonna have to look into Peter Krone and it reminds me of this podcast I just came across yesterday called It's not You, it's your trauma
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Which I love that because you know, I think part of getting your physical health straight is you've got to disassemble this stress response and yourself. And part of it is that you're getting triggered, we're getting triggered all over the place and trying to fight with the external world to be different so we can feel okay inside when the truth is that's not possible. The only person you can change is yourself and to disassemble the triggers, the trigger buttons that you have where you're not free and change yourself so that the external environment isn't stressful. That's really something I think sooner or later that we each have to, to do if we are to get our cortisol under control. So here's where the hormone prescription comes in, y'all, you know, I tie everything to hormones, it's all about clean cortisol and if we don't serve her and we don't give her what she needs, which is a safe, comfortable life where we're not reacting to everything and everyone, then we're just never gonna achieve what's possible for us.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Right? Yeah, absolutely. I completely agree. Personal experience right here,
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And if we can recognize like these stories is what, you know,
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And so I got curious. I'm like, well, when you were at that weight, how did you feel? And they're like, well I was stressed out
Speaker 1 (38:25):
So can we like start to neutralize the things because you know, when we are triggered it's because yeah, we're, we're perceiving it as as bad
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Maybe we'll have you back, we'll talk more human design. But this other quote from Maryanne Williamson that you shared, I love Maryanne Williamson. If you are listening, you don't know Maryanne. I definitely recommend looking into her because she has so much to teach about living in love versus fear. You know, her book Re Return to Love is one of my favorites. And so the quote is, as we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. And I I wanna say that, you know, the first time I met you at JJ Virgins, her mind share conference, so everybody listening, it's a conference that a lot of health printers go to and she has her mind share collaborative where we support each other. I remember meeting you at the Halloween party and you and your husband had the most amazing costumes, but I felt so drawn to you and you know, this idea of our presence automatically liberates others.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I felt that from you. So can you talk a little bit about how this shows up in your life, what this quote means to you, and really your journey from liberating yourself from fear because it's fear that keeps us in that flight fight, freeze font response. So I'd love if you could share that before we wrap up. Yeah, absolutely. Now this, this quote is just a piece, I think it's the last piece of a bigger quote. So I highly encourage, if you're listening, go read the entire quote cuz it's just so powerful. And I love this quote so much and my husband does too, that we, we, I like, I bought
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I realize at the end of the day, the reason yeah, why we are in a sympathetic state is because we're focused on fear. And that's really been just like the found foundation, like all there is is is love or fear. And if we can recognize like every, every thought we have, every, you know, action we take, you know, every decision we make, every everything that we do, is it around fear or is it around love? Because if it's around fear, it's obviously yeah, going to put us in that sympathetic state, it's going to make us feel certain emotions and then if we're in that state long enough, it's going to impact our health. So for me, yeah, recognizing like I was, yeah, definitely operating from that place of fear and shifting back into love has been so powerful for me and that's why, yeah, I love Maryanne Lewis and that's one of my favorite books as well.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Return to Love, Dr. Joe Dispenses, another incredible humane being who is on a mission in, in helping people just reconnect back to love. So if you guys haven't checked out his work, I highly recommend he's got three incredible books. But yeah, this quote has been powerful for me because I realized like I needed to go through everything that I went through, you know, experiencing the anxiety, experiencing the migraines, experiencing almost losing my, my soulmate
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And when we're in that place, like it just makes life worth living. We have so much peace, so much freedom, fulfillment, you know, and, and that's my mission, that's my goal. I want women to have access to this. Like we all have the tools, the power within us, you know, to heal, to, to live our best life. We just, we haven't tapped into that yet. And that's my goal is to help women to tap into that. So that's why this, this quote has been really, really powerful for me. And I, I appreciate your, your statement cuz that's my goal. I'm like, I want women to see me like being liberated. And so that allows them, gives them the permission to, to liberate themselves, which in fact is what my next book is going to be called is Liberated
Speaker 1 (43:47):
I'm so glad that you have done this work and had your, the journey that you've had. I know it wasn't easy
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I'm adding in the human design piece, like we're healing different parts of ourselves, we're diving deep into the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual elements. And so, so yeah, it's radiant by design right now. Or excuse me, you're radiant health.com, but eventually we'll be radiant by design.com. But yeah, you can access those resources there. You also, I have my, my quiz and already enough is a podcast course which I created because I recognize a lot of women are busy on the go. And so I just recorded all the insights, the tools, five to 10, 15 minute episodes to dive into a subconscious mind, the nervous system regulation, emotional regulation piece, and also the tools to help them move out, that stress response into that sympathetic or flow state is what I call it. So they can start embodying, you know, being, being already enough. And you can also find me on Instagram at the Kate Vasquez and that's Vasquez with Double Z's, V A Z Q U E z.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And I post a lot of content there. And also if you have any questions or just, you know, have anything to share, just, just send me a dm. I am and I'm always on Instagram. I love chatting with, with my followers, so yeah, please, please reach out to me if you have any questions or, or curious about anything. You know, I'm, I'm always there and always available. Awesome. Thank you so much Kate Vasquez for joining us today on the Hormone Prescription. Thank you so much for everything that you've shared. It's been a beautiful episode. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you so much. It's been awesome. And thank you for joining me for another episode of The Hormone Prescription with Dr. Kiran. I know for sure you heard some things today that are going to inspire you to take the next step, do something differently, and move towards the brilliant health that you deserve. I'll see you next week for another episode.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Until then,
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Peace, love, and hormones, y'all.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Thank you so much for listening. I know that incredible vitality occurs for women over 40 when we learn to speak hormone and balance these vital regulators to create the health and the life that we deserve. If you're enjoying this podcast, I'd love it if you'd give me a review and subscribe. It really does help this podcast out so much. You can visit the hormone prescription.com where we have some free gifts for you, and you can sign up to have a hormone evaluation with me on the podcast to gain clarity into your personal situation. Until next time, remember, take small steps each day to balance your hormones and watch the wonderful changes in your health that begin to unfold for you. Talk to you soon.
Ready to delve deeper into the connections between human design and hormone balance, and uncover the radiant version of yourself? Don't hesitate—tune in to this episode now! 🎧
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Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
Stop Band-aiding Your Headaches And Get Rid Of Them Once And For All
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
In this week's episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, host Dr. Kyrin Dunston sits down with Dr. Margaret Mill to discuss a topic that affects countless individuals - getting rid of headaches once and for all.
Dr. Mill shares her knowledge of Functional Medicine and her proven E.A.T. Method to help listeners understand how to identify and address the root cause of their headaches, boost energy levels, and restore mental clarity without resorting to drugs or overwhelming protocols.
Key Topics Discussed:
- Ending headaches & migraines
- Increasing energy
- Restoring mental clarity
- The E.A.T. Method
Key Takeaways & Learnings:
- Discovering root causes
- Personalized support
- Embracing a healthier lifestyle without drugs or overwhelming protocols
- Simple daily additions for better living
Dr. Mill's passion for empowering individuals to take control of their health is evident in her informative and engaging approach, making this episode a must-listen for those looking to live a healthier life.
Dr. Meg Mill is a Functional Medicine Practitioner, bestselling author, podcast host and speaker. In her virtual Functional Medicine practice, she works with patients worldwide to heal the root cause of their health struggles through advanced diagnostic testing and personalized support.
She has been seen on Fox News Channel, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Reader's Digest, Health Magazine, and on many podcasts. In her podcast A Little Bit Healthier she discusses simple things you can add to your life every day to live a healthier, more fulfilled life.
Meg is particularly passionate about helping people end headaches and migraines, increase energy and restore mental clarity without drugs or overwhelming protocols with her proven E.A.T. Method.
Don't miss out on this insightful discussion and find out how to stop band-aiding your headaches by tuning in to this episode now.
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Thursday Apr 20, 2023
This Is Your Brain On Food: How The Gut Can Cause Mood Disorders
Thursday Apr 20, 2023
Thursday Apr 20, 2023
Is your mood being impacted by the food you eat? Are you struggling to find answers to why your mood swings so drastically?
In this episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, Dr. Uma Naidoo joins us to unravel the mystery behind how our gut health affects our emotions and mental well-being. With her expertise in nutrition psychiatry and functional medicine, she dives deep into how food can be a powerful tool for healing or destruction when it comes to balancing hormones and emotional regulation.
Dr. Uma Naidoo is a Harvard-trained nutritional psychiatrist, professional chef, and nutritional biologist & author of the national & international bestseller: “This is Your Brain on Food.”
Michelin-starred chef David Bouley described Dr. Uma Naidoo as the world’s first “triple threat” in the food and medicine space as the nexus of her interests have found their niche in Nutritional Psychiatry.
Dr. Naidoo founded and directs the first and only hospital-based Nutritional Psychiatry Service in the USA. She is the Director of Nutritional and Metabolic Psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital & Director of Nutritional Psychiatry at the MGH Academy while serving on the faculty at Harvard Medical School.
She serves as a regular media contributor at CNBC and is on the Harvard Health Publishing Editorial Advisory Board. She has been invited by the World Economic Forum to consult on their New Frontiers of Nutrition initiative. After being one of only four US physicians to be invited to meet personally with HRH The Prince of Wales, she was asked to collaborate with HRH and the UK College of Medicine on a public health Brain Food project.
She is currently developing the first and only CME-based educational program at Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard to educate other clinicians globally about nutrition for brain health.
Dr. Uma has appeared as a Nutritional Psychiatry expert on Live with Kelly & Ryan, Today Show, 700 Club, ABC, and been featured in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Fast The company, Thrive Global, Harpers, Shape, Parade, Boston Globe, AARP, and more.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- How our gut health can affect our moods and emotions
- What foods to eat and avoid to support balanced hormones and emotional regulation
- Nutritional tools for improving your mental well-being
Tune in now as Dr. Uma Naidoo helps us unlock the power of food on our brain, hormones, and emotional stability. Join us as we dig into how eating healthier can lead to a happier you!
Happy listening! :)
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